Same. I know there are easy ways around it but I’m not going to use them, and I wish more people could take this attitude - if everyone cut down their Internet usage in response to this ID stuff things would quickly start to turn around
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etherphon@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
If I have to verify myself I simply won't use it, I really don't care, there's nothing so important online that I need to prove my identity to see it. (Banking and shit like that aside of course). Social media? Give me a break I'm already over it before all this ID shit. I hope it all burns to the ground.
LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
other_cat@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It would be a big struggle for me but I still agree with you.
LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
The fact that you recognise it would be a struggle should honestly spur you on even more to do it. People got by for a long time without the Internet and even though now the same infrastructure they’d have used is at best a shell of its former self if not gone entirely it would still be possible. We don’t have to stop entirely but if a bunch of sites suddenly find their traffic is way down they’d start to put pressure on about getting rid of ID checks and we might finally see some movement
other_cat@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Oh, I know. No preaching required. I’m from pre-internet days. That’s why I agree with you. Being this dependent on the internet is not good for me or anyone else.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Facebook is kinda unavoidable here.
I have young kids, and marketplace has saved me thousands of dollars. Kids need a lot of different stuff at different ages and it’s nice to be able to flip the stuff you dont need anymore and get the stuff they do need second hand.
Also messenger, what’s app. My apartment building has a what’s app group thats invaluable. I talk to customers on messenger.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It is totally avoidable, you will find new ways to handle your business. You have to stop using their service, they are a cancer on our society and they are actively engaging in propaganda for genocide amongst many other shitty things.
The sooner you pull the trigger the better off you will be. It is past time to move on.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Not really. I engage in my business to make money, not to fly the privacy & freedom flag.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
That is work devices though rather than personal ones
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Then you dont ever get to complain. You have other options, but its too hard for you, so youd rather just contribute to pissing away freedoms and privacy. Its because of people like you, who wont put up with even a little discomfort, that we are where we are. They keep pushing, and people like just keep on saying “OK”.
If we are ever to stop this increasingly vile push to have us be endlessly profiled, its unfortunately going to have to be people like you that finally grow a fucking back bone. So yeah, we’re fucked…
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Oh my sweet summer child. One day the light of idealism will fade from your eyes just as it does for everyone who is not 15.
I’m not contributing to pissing away freedoms and privacy, but I’m not going to inconvenience myself on ideological grounds.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Its got nothing to do with some frivolous ideology, and everything to do with not letting someone else manipulate me through convenience. People like you always have excuses, but the reality is that youre just lazy. You want your hand held by some tech daddy, you need your hand held by some tech daddy. Because other wise you might have to think for yourself. And that, well, thats just too much effort. No, better to bend over, spread cheeks, and present your arse to the gods of convenience. Well, that and all your data…
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
This isnt about ideology. This is about survival.
rothaine@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yes, instead of buying secondhand, he should buy new items at Walmart, Target, and Amazon. 🙄
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, facebook marketplace is the only way to buy things second hand… Could you be more perpetually online???
Networkcathode@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
It’s completely avoidable
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
This is just an excuse, not a justification. There’s always garage sales and such. Also, Facebook Marketplace is not the only game in town.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
your issues related to facebook marketplace are not unique.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
That’s not really true.
I live in a fairly small city. There might be other platforms but they’re not in common use.
I can list a box of toddler clothes and they’ll sell in a week, while other platforms perhaps they won’t sell at all.
rothaine@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Plenty of people have second-hand items to sell without using fb marketplace.
Where? Craigslist has become a pit. eBay is not cost effective for large items that are expensive to ship.
Grabthar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Don’t know where you are, but Kijiji is absolutely thriving in Ontario. My old man has about 40-50 items up at any given time, and has no problems finding buyers to rotate through his stock, and he is nowhere near a major population centre. I just looked at ads for a city centre and there is a lot available. It is definitely possible to work outside of facebook.
BanMe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m in this weird middle ground where I hate FB with a passion and it depresses me every time I log in, but I need to create a personal brand for my business (and to get laid, who am I kidding) and honestly I’m thinking about getting one of my friends to run it for me, which seems weird but
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I think everyone feels that way. All you can do is just try to stick to the bits you really need.
I would def think about paying someone to manage your business page.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yup, the furthest I’d go is entering a birthdate. Depending on the service, I’m anywhere from 21 to 105 years old.
hector@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Same. I hardly use youtube and will pirate anything I want to see.
I am planning on open sourcing phones and computers too.
Silicon valley parasites can do their age verification without me, that is the last straw, I hardly use now anyway.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
But what if they put porn behind a id wall.
frongt@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I don’t think porn sites in other countries care about our laws.
hisao@ani.social 3 weeks ago
More people gonna get their porn from darknet. And discover its wider selection of genres…
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Gay-torrents is still around. Though they really need to set up an i2p instance too.
etherphon@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
There's no shortage of other ways to get it for an enterprising person, maybe a few extra clicks once you know where to go. That's likely one of the goals though, whitewashing the internet. It's such a massive business though, but maybe very fractured and independent.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
People just go to the porn sites that aren’t hosted in a jurisdiction that requires ID verification and the ID verifying platforms lose traffic or people use VPNs.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
torrents
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
this. I refuse to make more accounts, and verify personal info. Ive been prepping for the big disconnect from the internet as a result. there will come a time when it just won’t be usable
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Tor and i2p say hello. The internet itself will be totally usable. The clear net is what will become unusable.