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untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
get linux if you haven’t already
if you don’t know how, ask, Lemmy is covered in Linux users
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 hours ago
I ran linux mint for a couple months. It was nice. Very few problems.
Unfortunately, when I tried to install it on this newer desktop it was a shit-show. No wifi or ethernet, no hdmi, it crashed when I tried to play elden ring. I should try another distribution, but I was so distressed after two days I just rolled back. The people in the mint discord were helpful, though, and got some of the problems fixed.
Windows sucks though.
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
With newer hardware you need to run a bleeding edge distro, at least until Debian 13 releases (a lot of distros use Debian as a base)
orange@communick.news 10 hours ago
Since Mint is based on a stable distro, it’ll be running older software that won’t support your newer hardware well, and you’re experiencing that firsthand.
Try Fedora, Bazzite, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, or anything else that’s more bleeding edge – they’re still very usable and reliable, it’s just that stable distros like Mint and Debian are “stable and reliable” overkill.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I’ve got this move coming up - my plan is to dual boot and slowly wean over.
Game crashes in Linux, try for a fix and if I get frustrated, boot into windows and enjoy the game.
Might be a rocky year, but the dual boot will likely take the stress off!
I’ve seen a lot of fedora-based distros pushed for gaming (mint is Debian based), apparently these can work better. Still looking into it, but no definitive answers there yet!
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
All of my devices except my work one are now Linux.
I have an old surface go 2 that good a massive new lease on life from using arch plasma. Double the battery life and everything. It could no longer get updates from MS because there was no longer enough space on the main drive to download and install the next update.
Then I have an old retro gaming pc that used to be for XP gaming but I ended up sticking bazzite on it for a test and it’s stayed that way and because of that when I built my girlfriend’s latest PC we decided to go bazzite desktop for her. And after getting past a few growing pains at the beginning that made it look like we made the wrong decision (due to an old 10xx gtx gpu - now on 3050) she’s been enjoying it and now it’s just standard.
Then I have my proper gaming PC that I use like a console so I put bazzite-deck on it as soon as I got an AMD card. And I’ve never felt better. HTPC console like gaming on windows was a fucking arse-on, even with steam big picture mode, because it doesn’t get all of the cool bells and whistles that let you control basic system settings right from steam like you can on steam os and bazzite deck.
For work I’ve started moving away from visual studio to VS Code (i know it’s still MS but I do C# .NET work and rider is too expensive, I don’t want a subscription for an IDE) to allow me to easily transition to fully working on Linux if the opportunity ever arises. Whether it be with my current employer and me convincing them to let me to install Linux on my laptop or with a future company. We’ll see which comes first ;)
Now it’s time to get and decouple from Google. Currently figuring out with android auto maps app I want (waze won’t run for some reason, my current winner at the moment is tom tom amigo). Then it’s on to getting a password manager, then a new browser (preferably way more lightweight than chrome) and potentially a Google pay replacement(?).
Any suggestions and opinions from anyone here - even though this is tangentially off topic - would be greatly appreciated.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 day ago
VS Code (i know it’s still MS but I do C# .NET work and rider is too expensive, I don’t want a subscription for an IDE)
VSCodium is a thing too if you want to un-Microsoft even further.
I use it for C# development on Linux and it works well.
getting a password manager
Bitwarden and Keepass are usually the go tos, depending on your use case.
then a new browser
Firefox or if you want to decouple from Mozilla as well, Librewolf works pretty well.
potentially a Google pay replacement
I’m not aware of any open Google Pay replacements other than taking a card with you.
As soon as you get rid of Google on your phone, you get rid of Google Pay.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I used vscodium for a bit but their latest C# Dev kit is locked to VS Code proper :(
I even made a cool bash script that would download and install ms vs store extensions and all of their dependencies before hitting this roadblock (to get the ones not available on open vsx).
Thanks for the password manager suggestions, I’ll look into them when I get a chance.
I’ve been looking into firefox forks too.
I would like to keep contactless via my phone as I don’t ever really carry my wallet with me anymore these days so maybe Google pay will have to stay. Bit annoying that it won’t be able to be used on whatever browser I end up going with though :(
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 9 hours ago
Is there something missing in OmniSharp that prevents you from using VSCodium?
I do most of my C# development with the OmniSharp plugin in VSCodium on Linux.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah, there really aren’t any good contactless alternatives to Google, Apple, and Samsung.
My current setup is reasonably good, I have a Google Watch (WiFi only) that only connects at home, and I only use the Google Watch app on a separate Android profile. The Wallet app refreshes payment tokens, and I don’t need any Google spyware running for regular purchases.
I’m hoping some cryptocurrency or something will get widespread enough so I can have FOSS contactless payments. I don’t think the traditional finance industry will ever support FOSS payments.
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Btw Rider is now free for non commercial use
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I use it for work…
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
You could ask your employer for a license I guess
CrowyTech@feddit.uk 1 day ago
With the efforts I’m doing to try and de-google / de-big US tech this needs to be my next move.
Trying to convince my better half to do it on his laptop is a pain. I’m under if you degoogle my chromebook now or once it loses support.
mrnarwall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m going to grad school soon for cs and they require windows 11. This is gonna be a fun test in locking down my machine and only doing updates with intention
x00z@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You can dual boot or use a virtual machine. Both are pretty easy to setup.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Never heard of this before. They may recommend it, but not require.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I had a class that “required” Windows, I did just fine with Linux. YMMV.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I’m building a new gaming PC and it’s going to be a Linux build and if it doesn’t work the way you guys keep insisting it doesn’t ill I swear to God.
My last experience with Linux was with Ubuntu about 10 years ago and I can’t say it was a particularly great experience I’m hoping that in the last decade it’s improved its user experience.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
For gaming, I recommend Garuda. It has a preset for gaming in particular with a lot of packages you’ll need to install, and a tool to install extra things you may want, like software for controllers and things like that. I think it also has the Nvidia drivers built in (I’m AMD though, so I’m not sure) which isn’t always the case. It’s also Arch based, so the Arch wiki, which is one of the best Linux information sources, will all work, and it can access the Arch User Repository (AUR) where users upload packages, which may be important. For example, Runescape doesn’t work on Linux as is, but there is a package on the AUR for a launcher that works.
elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 3 hours ago
Use Bazzite! Works great now even with Nvidia cards. Been able to run anything the same as I did on windows before. Was able to get VR working too pretty quickly by using ALVR
sixty@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’m not a Linux hater (believe it or not), but I’m definitely not an evangelist either, and I think this eternal praise for Linux is just not warranted.
If you want things to “just work” in any capacity, then you’re in for a bad time.
Personally, I don’t want Windows 11 on my next PC, but I don’t have the time or the desire to get into the troubleshooting hell that unfortunately is Linux either.
People say that anything is possible on Linux, but at the same time roast you for even thinking that it’s not gonna take enormous amounts of un-learning and self education when coming from Windows.
Linux fanboys who don’t see it’s faults can be sort of toxic.
I don’t doubt that I’ll get downvoted for this, but I think there need so be more differing opinions on Linux on here.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Most things do. Not everything obviously, but that’s true for Windows and everything else too. Technology is complex.
You see, this is the issue. Of course it’s going to behave differently. It’s an entirely different system. The issues come when people switch to Linux and expect Windows still. It isn’t Windows. You have to be ready and willing to learn how Linux works, and willing to adapt to what it does differently. For example, on Windows most applications check for updates when they launch and you have to go to a website to get them. On Linux, once a package is installed, your package manager handles all updates for you and you never have to worry about it again, besides just telling the package manager to update occasionally.
Obviously it has faults. I don’t know anyone who says otherwise. Windows users who ignore that they’ve just gotten used to all of Window’s faults are horrible though. I spent a long time learning to avoid or fix the faults of Windows, and I stopped seeing them because that’s just the way things were. Once I switched to Linux and don’t have to deal with them anymore, they become clear. It’s not a user friendly OS. Users just got used to it because they had to. They can also get used to Linux of they want too, for free and without a company harvesting their data or trying to push stuff on them.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Linux users to Windows users with a question: “you can solve that by switching to Linux”
Linux users to that same user when they switch to Linux and have a question: “why the fuck do you wanna do that? Go back to Windows.”
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Almost always, Linux users try to help. However if someone comes over and wants to do things like Windows instead of learning how the new system works, they probably won’t help them with that.
It’s a new system. It’s going to work differently. You have to be willing to learn and adapt to it, just as you had to do when learning Windows. No one is going to spend time helping you contort Linux to work like Windows when the solution is simple but you just have to be willing to learn it.
echodot@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
Yeah that is basically my concern. However I figure I can always just buy a Windows licence if it doesn’t work out.
Taleya@aussie.zone 19 hours ago
This is one of the major bugbears - linux for a long time had a lot of fucking about required under the hood.
This has not been the case for a decade or so now, straight outta the box it works as painlessly as windows
0xSim@lemdro.id 1 day ago
I’m migrating to Linux Mint, 99% of steam games work as well as on windows. Those who don’t are mostly multiplayer games that insist to have some shitty kernel anticheat.
I’ll still keep windows on dual boot when I need it, though.
dtrain@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Shit , I just installed oblivion reboot and worked on day 1 without issues in popOS.
Gaming is such a nonissue on Linux now
tulwinn@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I’d have to disagree that it’s a non issue it’s definitely improved, but I still come across little irritations that pop up on Linux but not Windows games.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
It’s a non issue for most games, which is great but every now and then there’s a game that’s too tightly integrated into windows (like phasmophobia and it using the cortan API of all things for voice chat) or one that relies on an incompatible anti cheat system.
The Linux community need to figure out a new friendly standard to ensure anti cheat without out needing to act like a backdoor to the root kernel. I wish I was smart enough to help with that sort of stuff.
tfowinder@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
NVIDIA drivers finally behaving well?
Last tried gaming on Linux Mint 2 years ago faced a lot of graphic glitches, full screen issues, pointer issues.
Finally gave up.
I had NVIDIA gpu though
MrNesser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well no Helldivers if I go that route
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 day ago
Helldivers works fine on Linux, I play it from time to time.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Gold rating on protondb
https://www.protondb.com/app/553850
pineapplepizza@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Maybe too late, but,no tux, no bux.
OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Unfortunately brand new hardware has issues more often than not. I had to get a beta build just to get wifi to work on one system I built.
plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
I also tried Ubuntu 10 years ago and threw it away in anger. Have been using mint for over a year now and game on it regularly. All I really needed to know was: use proton and add ‘gamemoderun %command%’ into the launch option of the game.
Except for mods on Nier. That was a hassle.
Its actually more annoying on the work computer. Ms office windows apps are kind of great compared to libreoffice, especially with the collaboration options. But Linux is nicer to do dev work on so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 1 day ago
Did you give OnlyOffice a try? flathub.org/apps/org.onlyoffice.desktopeditors
plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
I did, it is a little easier for me to use than libre.
unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
I was in a similar boat and have found modern Linux to be somewhere between Windows XP and Windows 10 in terms of convenience and having it “just work”. However, I reckon I’ve spent less time troubleshooting than I would spend raging at the bullshit Microsoft keeps trying to shove down your throat in Windows. On balance I’m counting it as a win, and I suspect you will too.
Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Please update this if you fun into the usual brick wall of hand modifying config files or self-compiling some obscure git pull just to make basic things like audio and network work.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
How many people have these issues with audio and networking? I currently have 8 Linux computers and none of this has been necessary on any of them.
And editing a config file is hardly a “brick wall”.
stephen01king@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Its definitely a brick wall to a majority of people using Windows right now.
echodot@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
No it’s not but it’s also not something I’m prepared to put up with. When I turn my computer on it’s because I have something I want to do and the thing I want to do with it is not mess with basic the configuration.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
If you’re going that far, you’ve taken a wrong turn somewhere. Please ask for help before digging into compiling stuff, unless that’s what you’re into, there’s probably a simpler solution.
echodot@feddit.uk 12 hours ago
It sounds like the version they were using didn’t have the right drivers in the build. Seems a lot of work to go to just to get new drivers.
IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
AMD or NVidia?
Most games that I play work well on Linux. Anti-cheat stuff can be an exception though so best to ensure what you enjoy works.
AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Nobara or Bazzite are your best Linux options for gaming. I’ve been on Nobara for over a year with nothing but good things to say about the distro and its community.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Just keep in mind that there are some very different options within the Linux world and different people here will push you towards different options. The two most common and most different options are Bazzite and Mint.
While both of them can definitely work well, in my experience Mint still leaves a lot of new users unsatisfied with it. I’m yet to see any windows user complain about Bazzite, so that’s my recommendation.
Either way if you try one and it doesn’t live up to your expectations, there’s still a chance the other might.
tulwinn@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I have Linux up and running and it’s definitely improved, I’ve fixed almost all the issues I’ve had previously. Unfortunately, discord is missing attenuation on Linux. This is a real problem for me and if I could find a solution, I could ditch windows.