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• MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  pleasant texture

  I’d go with “rubbery”.

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  • SPRUNT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “Pleasant” in the context of what it would be otherwise. My understanding is that, without the emulsifier, it would be crumbly and kinda chalky, and not hold a form very well.

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    • smiletolerantly@awful.systems ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m sorry, but have you never had actual Cheddar?

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      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They missed that American is a mix of cheddar and Colby Jack, so it’s not easy to mix the 2 without an emulsifier

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      • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I have, and it’s <chef’s kiss>.

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• Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You forgot to mention that it’s watered down. That’s what the emulsifier is for, to make the oils in the cheese mix well with the added water. The concept is fine - for some applications - if it were only that, but this is hyper-processed American food we’re talking about here. Gotta pad out that ingredient list:

  CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, MILK, SORBIC ACID AS A PRESERVATIVE, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    But it’s a great source of phosphates! Where else are you going to get your phosphates?

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• ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Literally this is why it gets hate. It’s not remotely Cheddar. Real Cheddar is deliberately none of these things. I love a crunchy cheese crystal and a crumbly organic texture. To each their own, but it’s not Cheddar, barely cheese. I’d have it in a burger, but only because so few places will melt real cheese properly. Brie is pretty good in a burger. Is Somerset Brie really Brie? Time for a Frenchman to tell me to gtfo…

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  • SPRUNT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I didn’t say it was cheddar. I said it was made from cheddar. It’s decidedly not cheddar, which is why it’s not called “cheddar”.

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    • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “almost” Cheese product…

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      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s Velveeta or canned cheese, explicitly not what’s being discussed

        American cheese is an actual cheese product

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  • mr_azerty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    gtfo.

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• andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  IMHO, it has three purposes:

  1. a grilled cheese on cheap white bread with enough butter to guarantee an acid reflux episode
  2. melted on Chef Boyardee ravioli
  3. on a slice of apple pie

  If your Kraft singles are too precious, I think the Dollar Tree brands stray even further from gods light.

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  • smort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Wait wtf you put American cheese on your apple pie?!?

    Nononono that’s where the ice cream goes. Maybe whipped cream

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    • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I think it might be an “older people in the south” thing. (Like all boomers and older I’ve talked to about it know about it, usually not younger) I worked at a diner for a bit, and it would be Silent Generation types that would order it.

      It’s pretty good, but real cheddar would be better. It’s that similar salty/sweet combo that makes French fries and a McFlurry better than sex.

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      • jdeath@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        i heard of it as kid on some cooking show on PBS in the 90s. I thought it was super weird, but my mom had heard of it. Except it was cheddar cheese, not american. I tried it and thought it was pretty good, so i bring it up when people talk about apple pie. it never fails to weird them out if they’ve never tried it!

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    • SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There’s a joke/urban myth that it’s the law in Wisconsin that restaurants have to serve a slice of cheese with apple pie.

      We did used to have a law that oleo (margarine) had to be sold undyed, which made it a sickly-looking blue-ish white. This was to protect the state’s dairy industry. Only butter could be yellow. People near the borders used to bootleg yellow margarine back across the border from other states. The law was dealt a mortal blow when one of our state representatives publicly took a blind taste test in order to prove that butter was better…

      …and failed. His family had been worried about his health, and was surreptitiously substituting yellow margarine for butter in their meals. (In an amusing historical twist, now that we know about the danger of transfats, we know that butter is indeed better.)

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    wtf would you put that on apple pie? Pie deserves a nice sharp white cheddar

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• scholar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If by ‘more pleasant texture’ you mean ‘no texture whatsoever’ then yes, I suppose so.

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• endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I agree, the american cheese is an Interesting and useful invention. At the end of the day it’s just emulsified cheese. Similiar to emusified sausages and meat products, which are popular all around the world.

  I much rather hate american insistace on substituting technique and culinary education with cream, corn syrup, sugar and butter.

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    emusified sausages and meat products, which are popular all around the world

    They are?

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    • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Mortadellas, doctors sausage, frankfurters etc. should be emulsified afaik

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      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Aren’t they just finely ground? I mean when they’re made properly.

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• Botunda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  American Cheese is not actually cheese. It is cheese food product. Even deli American cheese is not cheese.

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  • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Legally they can’t label it as cheese, but get anyway with cheese being part of the name.

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    • shortrounddev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Because it’s made out of cheese. Legally if you take something that is cheese and use it as an ingredient in another food, then it is no longer “cheese”, it is “cheese food”. The first ingredient is cheddar

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      • eskimofry@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Because it’s made out of cheese

        The west mocks homeopathy but practices it with it’s own food.

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• Andonyx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Check out Nile Red on Nebula, (or YT if that’s your bag). He makes American Cheese from the ground cheddar up and you can watch. Having done so, I agree with you.

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• trueheresy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I wonder if one of the problems is your comparison of American cheese to what I’m guessing might be American cheddar. I say this because most (and I know there are some niche outliers) American cheddars are pretty awful. It tastes processed, rubbery and bland.

  When I, a Brit, lived in the USA for 4 yrs I quickly learned the only good cheddar was the NZ or UK stuff. I say this as someone who has gone through at least 1-3 blocks of various British cheddars a week for almost 40 yrs.

  I wonder if you have had imported (not just branded as “English cheddar” before for example? It might blow your mind… but also if American cheddar is all you have know it might not taste all that good - we all have our tastes shaped by our upbringing.

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• JacksonLamb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  All other criticisms of America

  Processed cheese is only called “American cheese” by Americans.

  The rest of the world doesn’t call it that, and it’s strange to see that some of you take it on as part of your national identity.

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  • SPRUNT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Your assuming a lot. I just like cheese.

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    • JacksonLamb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Then why were you calling it a criticism of America?

      That does not make sense.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They said that in the broader context of saying they don’t think American cheese deserves the hate it gets. It was qualifying their defense of American cheese by saying they aren’t just blindly defending any criticism of America but honestly like the cheese.

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  • Flisty@mstdn.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    @JacksonLamb @SPRUNT 'American cheese' is a specific type of cheese. I think the closest thing we have in the UK, we'd call 'plastic cheese' but even Kraft cheese slices/Kraft singles aren't 'American cheese' as they have extra milk in.

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    • JacksonLamb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thank you. I did not realize their processed cheese was even worse than Kraft.

      I’m partial to the odd Laughing Cow on toast.

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• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Honestly if you ever tasted anything else than cheddar and mozzarella, you know that americans cheese is something else. I’m willing to bet you could leave some slices in a forest and no animal would touch it.

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  • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    you know that americans cheese is something else

    It’s cheddar and Colby Jack with some emulsifiers to make them mix better, that’s about it

    Kraft singles have preservatives in them so they’re großer for sure, but that’s not the only kind of American cheese there is

    No I DONT know why my keyboard autocorrected that to use the German letter but it’s funny so I’m leaving it as is

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    • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m sure there’s a lot of good american cheese but I thought this “cheese product” was the subject. I actually enjoy it from time to time, but I can’t bring myself to think of it as cheese. Like cheez weez for example, I like it sometimes, but it’s just a different product in my mind. And man that Halloween orange color… just… who got this idea…why?

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