Remember that to these people the law exists to oppress.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
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andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I like this “throwing slices of American cheese” at Cybertrucks. It’s barely even food, so it’s not really that wasteful. I’m sure the synthetic oilly shit has a wonderful reaction with that unprotected stainless steel. It’s also fucking hilarious - “hey police, someone threw cheese at my car, I’m in fear for my life.”
Remember that to these people the law exists to oppress.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Just wanted to say that the hate on American cheese is unjustified. American cheese is just cheddar that has been heated to 170f (iirc) for long enough to kill bacteria and make it shelf-stable. They add an emulsifier (again, iirc) to help it bind better and have a more pleasant texture.
All other criticisms of America are valid, but the cheese doesn’t deserve the hate it gets.
pleasant texture
I’d go with “rubbery”.
“Pleasant” in the context of what it would be otherwise. My understanding is that, without the emulsifier, it would be crumbly and kinda chalky, and not hold a form very well.
I’m sorry, but have you never had actual Cheddar?
You forgot to mention that it’s watered down. That’s what the emulsifier is for, to make the oils in the cheese mix well with the added water. The concept is fine - for some applications - if it were only that, but this is hyper-processed American food we’re talking about here. Gotta pad out that ingredient list:
CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, MILK, SORBIC ACID AS A PRESERVATIVE, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).
But it’s a great source of phosphates! Where else are you going to get your phosphates?
Literally this is why it gets hate. It’s not remotely Cheddar. Real Cheddar is deliberately none of these things. I love a crunchy cheese crystal and a crumbly organic texture. To each their own, but it’s not Cheddar, barely cheese. I’d have it in a burger, but only because so few places will melt real cheese properly. Brie is pretty good in a burger. Is Somerset Brie really Brie? Time for a Frenchman to tell me to gtfo…
I didn’t say it was cheddar. I said it was made from cheddar. It’s decidedly not cheddar, which is why it’s not called “cheddar”.
gtfo.
IMHO, it has three purposes:
If your Kraft singles are too precious, I think the Dollar Tree brands stray even further from gods light.
Wait wtf you put American cheese on your apple pie?!?
Nononono that’s where the ice cream goes. Maybe whipped cream
I think it might be an “older people in the south” thing. (Like all boomers and older I’ve talked to about it know about it, usually not younger) I worked at a diner for a bit, and it would be Silent Generation types that would order it.
It’s pretty good, but real cheddar would be better. It’s that similar salty/sweet combo that makes French fries and a McFlurry better than sex.
There’s a joke/urban myth that it’s the law in Wisconsin that restaurants have to serve a slice of cheese with apple pie.
We did used to have a law that oleo (margarine) had to be sold undyed, which made it a sickly-looking blue-ish white. This was to protect the state’s dairy industry. Only butter could be yellow. People near the borders used to bootleg yellow margarine back across the border from other states. The law was dealt a mortal blow when one of our state representatives publicly took a blind taste test in order to prove that butter was better…
…and failed. His family had been worried about his health, and was surreptitiously substituting yellow margarine for butter in their meals. (In an amusing historical twist, now that we know about the danger of transfats, we know that butter is indeed better.)
wtf would you put that on apple pie? Pie deserves a nice sharp white cheddar
If by ‘more pleasant texture’ you mean ‘no texture whatsoever’ then yes, I suppose so.
I agree, the american cheese is an Interesting and useful invention. At the end of the day it’s just emulsified cheese. Similiar to emusified sausages and meat products, which are popular all around the world.
I much rather hate american insistace on substituting technique and culinary education with cream, corn syrup, sugar and butter.
emusified sausages and meat products, which are popular all around the world
They are?
Mortadellas, doctors sausage, frankfurters etc. should be emulsified afaik
American Cheese is not actually cheese. It is cheese food product. Even deli American cheese is not cheese.
Legally they can’t label it as cheese, but get anyway with cheese being part of the name.
Because it’s made out of cheese. Legally if you take something that is cheese and use it as an ingredient in another food, then it is no longer “cheese”, it is “cheese food”. The first ingredient is cheddar
Check out Nile Red on Nebula, (or YT if that’s your bag). He makes American Cheese from the ground cheddar up and you can watch. Having done so, I agree with you.
I wonder if one of the problems is your comparison of American cheese to what I’m guessing might be American cheddar. I say this because most (and I know there are some niche outliers) American cheddars are pretty awful. It tastes processed, rubbery and bland.
When I, a Brit, lived in the USA for 4 yrs I quickly learned the only good cheddar was the NZ or UK stuff. I say this as someone who has gone through at least 1-3 blocks of various British cheddars a week for almost 40 yrs.
I wonder if you have had imported (not just branded as “English cheddar” before for example? It might blow your mind… but also if American cheddar is all you have know it might not taste all that good - we all have our tastes shaped by our upbringing.
All other criticisms of America
Processed cheese is only called “American cheese” by Americans.
The rest of the world doesn’t call it that, and it’s strange to see that some of you take it on as part of your national identity.
Your assuming a lot. I just like cheese.
Then why were you calling it a criticism of America?
That does not make sense.
@JacksonLamb @SPRUNT 'American cheese' is a specific type of cheese. I think the closest thing we have in the UK, we'd call 'plastic cheese' but even Kraft cheese slices/Kraft singles aren't 'American cheese' as they have extra milk in.
Thank you. I did not realize their processed cheese was even worse than Kraft.
I’m partial to the odd Laughing Cow on toast.
Honestly if you ever tasted anything else than cheddar and mozzarella, you know that americans cheese is something else. I’m willing to bet you could leave some slices in a forest and no animal would touch it.
you know that americans cheese is something else
It’s cheddar and Colby Jack with some emulsifiers to make them mix better, that’s about it
Kraft singles have preservatives in them so they’re großer for sure, but that’s not the only kind of American cheese there is
No I DONT know why my keyboard autocorrected that to use the German letter but it’s funny so I’m leaving it as is
I’m sure there’s a lot of good american cheese but I thought this “cheese product” was the subject. I actually enjoy it from time to time, but I can’t bring myself to think of it as cheese. Like cheez weez for example, I like it sometimes, but it’s just a different product in my mind. And man that Halloween orange color… just… who got this idea…why?
Cybertruck owners are huge fragile bitches, who’d have known?
DONT NEED any toes if the gas pedal is stuck.
In a video taken from a Cybertruck of a man throwing American cheese slices at the windshield of a Cybertruck
They better be throwing 64 slices of American cheese.
88…
Post his picture everywhere so everyone knows who he is… and he never has to pay for his own drinks again, I suppose?
I’m sure the synthetic oilly shit has a wonderful reaction with that unprotected stainless steel.
Not to mention that depending on force of the throw, and precise angle of the impact of cheese slice, the thing could start falling apart.
… which now I think about it, also explains the:
“hey police, someone threw cheese at my car, I’m in fear for my life.”
Police : Buddy, you are lucky it wasn’t something much worse, this one time, a friggin acorn hit my car and I…
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fuck! I’d completely forgotten about that! What a fucking mongrel…
The latter is so they can kill them with a written record to aid their defense in court.
I’d call it premeditated, first degree murder, but I’m not on their jury so my opinion is irrelevant.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This had me chuckling.