Blood sucking imperials.
"But they could've posed a threat to the new system!"
Submitted 3 weeks ago by 
Grumpus_Maximus@thelemmy.club to historymemes@piefed.social
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njm1314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It was a 1918 and a whole lot of monarchies were risking the same fate. The Civil War went on for four years after the Romanovs were shot as the whites advanced.
They were killed by the reds, and the threat they posed as royals was the reasoning behind their execution. Acknowledging the historical context to their deaths is hardly defending them, no more than acknowledging that Archduke Ferdinand got assassinated doesn’t make you a Serbian nationalist.
You can make remarks on whether it was a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ thing, but placing value judgements like it is an endorsement of any given politics is kind of this new mentality that is just abusive to history.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
This is why Uday and Qusay Hussein had to die.
A brutal dictator who promises to make his children into brutal dictators has implicated his family in his crimes.
If he had wanted to keep them safe they would have fled or abdicated instead of keeping them as heirs to the throne.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is a dumbass post. If they didn’t kill the family of the Tsar they would be used by counter revolutionaries.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Who cares? What difference does it make if counter revolutionaries try to restore the old royal family or make a new one? The problem with monarchy is the system itself, not whoever happens to occupy the position of monarch. Human beings are more than a symbol, no matter how powerful that symbol may be. There is no possible justification for the murder of children.
Wander@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It be interesting to see if countries/people that won wars and brutally murdered everyone and caused complete demographic alteration has done better or worse long term.
I expect they have done better long term.
WalleyeWarrior@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Yeah, clearly it was the right choice since you just have to look at Reza Pahlavi trying to bring back the Persian monarchy today
Ariselas@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
yep, best not let the cancer fester. I guess that makes me a tankie
Windex007@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can’t say if it makes you a tankie or not… but I can say that I wouldn’t be comfortable with you being within 200 feet of a middle school.
Edit: sorry, 100m. I just assumed you were from the USA because of how comfortable you are with the idea of school aged kids getting shot.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Meanwhile Stalin’s daughter fled to the US
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago It’s wild that someone can be a tankie, at least for more than say a year or something until the novelty veneer goes away.
Eldritch@piefed.world 3 weeks ago It’s the same mental gymnastics for magats. They both think what they want is good. And that people that don’t think like them must suffer to change their minds or die.
And it’s so religiously ingrained in them. That the system cannot fail them. The system can only be failed. No amount of reality proving them wrong or resisting them will convince many of them otherwise. They will just double down on cruelty, oppression, and justification.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
it_depends_man@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wrote up a huge hypothetical of what I would do. Tough stuff. Made me think. Good post!
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
How is it a good post arguing that it was wrong to execute the kids of the Tsar? Do you not understand how monarchies work?
it_depends_man@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Made me think == good post.
Idk what you read into my comment?
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
If the Chinese could have handled it well, so could have the Russians.
There no bigger PR win than former royal family living new lives as productive members of the communist society.Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
There’s a lot of instances in history where the Chinese handled transitions of power very badly, to be fair.
But yes, making the former emperor a street sweeper was absolutely genius.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Very different emperors though.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The atom bombs were fine, though, right?
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe you haven’t heard about it, but there was that war thing happening between Japan and US
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
See, no issues with the nukes. Those were necessary, because of our war. It’s important that those children died in the thousands.