All religions are shit. Humanity really needs to shed this primitive baggage already.
Zionists doing a rave to block aid trucks at Ker Shalom crossing while Palestinians are starving
Submitted 8 months ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
https://files.catbox.moe/jnpbg5.mp4
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Furbag@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
It’s not about religion. It’s about settler colonialism.
DeepGradientAscent@programming.dev 8 months ago
The two have been intimately intertwined for quite a long time.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Where do you think “settler colonialism” came from? Directly from religion, it’s just a secular name for what religion has been doing since inception.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Bad people will always do bad things, but if you want good people to do bad things, you need religion.
splicerslicer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d actually argue the opposite. Religion reigns in bad people. Talk to a religious person, wait until you hear them say something like, “but if there’s no god and no afterlife, what’s to stop people from murder and rape?” That’s all that’s holding them back from total anarchy, the threat of eternal suffering and damnation, only for some it’s still not enough.
NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I find it interesting when people say this but ignore any wrong doing or suffering caused by secular or atheistic regimes.
pop@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
It’s only a genocide if the west disagrees with it.
Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 months ago
Genocide has a pretty strict definition.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But yet the West refuses to apply it to Gaza, which clearly qualifies…
small44@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Terrorists
anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The media want us to believe that the Problem with Israel is the far right government, while in reality it is the whole fucking Nation.
stoly@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have known a number of actual Israelis. The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.
This is definitely the MAGA side.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The polls show that Israelis still overwhelmingly support what’s happening in Gaza.
They seem to believe that the only way to live in peace is to kill all Arabs.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The majority just wants to live peaceful lives.
Problem is what do we define “peaceful lives”. You and I think it just means being able to go about our daily lives and just that, but Israelis have been drowning in propaganda. It’s like saying “Americans just want peaceful lives right after 9/11/” Sure, but what they think will get them their peaceful lives is an armed invasion and genocide. It was a popular enough view to get Bush reelected.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If they allow it to continue to happen then they also share blame.
If you despise the infamous Nazi prision guards, you need to despise the Israeli that does not speak/act against genocide.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Your social media feed wants you to think that, but the reality is that these protesters are the far right ultra orthodox types that vote for parties that are the furthest right of the governing coalition. Yay for proportional representation where you can form the government by making a coalition with the furthest right parties, right?
Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 months ago
It’s really not. It’s incredibly rare for a whole population to agree on anything.
Chances are these are their equivalent of MAGA.
Facebones@reddthat.com 8 months ago
All the righties in any other situation would be screaming that protesters blocking a road should be run over.
I don’t really agree but perhaps we should respect their wishes this one time. 🤔
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
All the leftists in any other situation would be applauding protesters taking direct action.
I don’t really agree but perhaps we should respect their wishes this one time. 🤔
It seems hypocrisy depends on context, doesn’t it?
Facebones@reddthat.com 8 months ago
You think I care about some little masturbatory gotcha play, but no - innocent people are suffering and these fucks are trying to keep them from basic necessities like food, water, and medical supplies that have pointedly and explicitly destroyed by Israel - fuck em, take em out.
Apples =/= oranges, no matter how hard you try to run circles around it.
Floey@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If the protesters in these other situations were blocking fleets of ambulances and firetrucks you might have an equivalency.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I suspect every country has their MAGA. And the problem is when it gets to big.
I think when people feel survival precarity, its easy to get into their head they have to hoard what they got from the Others.
That figured pretty largely into the story of Sodom, it didn’t end well, albeit by deus ex machina.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The problem also exists when the middle is content, asleep, or paid off.
occhineri@feddit.de 8 months ago
Can anyone provide further information?
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Kerem Shalom crossing: Israeli protesters hold up aid trucks to Gaza
TLDR: According to Israelis all Palestinians are Hamas so they’re justified in killing them through starvation.
roastedDeflator@kbin.social 8 months ago
I think the following articles refer to this video:
The New Arab - Israelis dance, camp out at Gaza crossing while blocking aid for Palestinians
Lupus108@feddit.de 8 months ago
Yeah all I see is a group of people dancing next to a street…
GenXcisguy@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yeah, the article from the BBC should have been posted alongside the video, rather than someone linking it 4 hours after the initial post.
roastedDeflator@kbin.social 8 months ago
I think the following articles refer to this video:
The New Arab - Israelis dance, camp out at Gaza crossing while blocking aid for Palestinians
Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hamas killed festival goers! The festival goers:
juxta@reddthat.com 8 months ago
This rave is glowing in yiddish.
Holyginz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s not a rave. That’s fascists celebrating preventing aid for people who they hate because they believe in different skydaddies
TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Link broken. Lots of catbox links don’t work it seems.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Strange I just clicked it and it still works for me. Try this twitter post maybe?
TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 months ago
That worked, thanks.
TheBat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Works fine in Liftoff
TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Doesn’t work for me still, in either Mull or Mulch browsers on my phone. Catbox.moe does work, just not the mp4. It’s probably mp4 support in my browsers.
M500@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
This is so strange. How can people have so little empathy for the lives of innocent people?
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Israeli citizens are subjected to daily propaganda (e.g. “there are no civilians in Gaza”, “Hamas is ISIS”, “Hamas wants to murder all jews”, etc.) to legitimize their fascistic policies.
There are a lot of parallels to the US short/y after 9/11.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Same textbooks are being referenced.
“Closest, special” ally and all that jazz.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Religion
LostWon@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
It’s part of Israel’s propaganda to make this about religion to invoke irrational “War on Terror” sentiments in people who haven’t looked into it that deeply.
In reality, they’re dehumanizing and targeting all Palestinian Arabs, including Christians. Hence the shooting up and bombing of churches along with everything else.
mathemachristian@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Fascism
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
You just need to convince people that the “innocent people” are not people
crazyminner@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
They convince themselves.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They simply feel like they are better than them. That’s the key to make anyone a monster.
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Well to quote the Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”
They think they are subhuman. The because the very evil they fled from.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 months ago
A lot of people’s hearts are too full of hatred to hold anything else.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hatred : Heart :: White Bread : Stomach
S_204@lemm.ee 8 months ago
75 years of being attacked leads to some fucked up thinking. Most Israelis, like most Palestinians know people who have been victims of violence repeatedly. Their mindsets aren’t the same as those in the West with the safety and security provided by border stability. Which is why it’s so interesting seeing the Western ideals being pushed on this conflict. Those ravers should be jailed though, they’re contradicting the ICJ order. Whether it’s the Israeli government or not, the order was to enable the provision of aid and that means clearing obstacles.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
75 years of brainwashing you mean
SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think they may be viewing it as more of an act of defiance and retribution for the rave hamas murdered all those innocent people at. If you view it as an isolated thing happening during a “war” then it really makes no sense.
livus@kbin.social 8 months ago
It makes no sense anyway. Hamas murdered innocent people so they want to ...murder more innocent people.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 8 months ago
5% of the population is psychopathic, and most of them aren’t violent. Folks forget this stat. They also forget that moral competence exists on a spectrum, so that even many of the mentally healthier people willingly do evil things, especially in service to their religion.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Maybe they should have a number tatooed on their arms to remind them?
/superdarkhumor