cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/12134129
Cummins Diesel Cheats Emissions Tests - Fined $1.6B by US
$1.6 Billion is a lot for cummins. I’ve got a massage parlor down the road that’ll do it for $50.
Cummins Diesel Cheats Emissions Tests - Fined $1.6B by US
Submitted 2 months ago by HallowellNash@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-business/cummins-truck-emissions-justice-department-fine/
Comments
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 months ago
The best part of cheap laughs is that I can get so many, well done.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Whoa, a 10-figure fine!? About time they made that shit hurt!
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Then you’ll love to hear how VW paid a $2.8 billion fine (in 2017) when they were caught doing the same thing!
Artyom@lemm.ee 2 months ago
VW probably had way more cars involved though, so the cost per car was lower.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That was just one of the many cases. In total, dieselgate cost VW $38 billion.
NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 months ago
From reading the article, it was approximately 1 million vehicles in violation, all pickup trucks. That works out to $1,600 per vehicle.
Don’t take this the wrong way—the fine is large, but $1,600 on vehicles that sell for fifty times that still seems… thin.
mikezane@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is Cummings, they make the engines, not the truck. I have no clue what they charge car companies for their engines but I know it is a lot closer to $1,600 than the cost of the completed truck.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Here’s some more info from the Justice Department release: justice.gov/…/statement-attorney-general-merrick-…
The company allegedly installed defeat devices on 630,000 model year 2013 to 2019 RAM 2500 and 3500 pickup truck engines. The company also allegedly installed undisclosed auxiliary emission control devices on 330,000 model year 2019 to 2023 RAM 2500 and 3500 pickup truck engines.
Which makes this quote in OP’s article even more infuriating:
“The company has seen no evidence that anyone acted in bad faith and does not admit wrongdoing,” Cummins External Communications Director Jon Mills told Forbes.
Installing a cheat device is the definition of acting in bad faith!!!
Illecors@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
I’m genuinely curious how they’re pulling this off. Is it called something entirely innocent internally? Like “emissions controller” or something?
jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Probably similar to what VW did. Just had a small group of people know about it.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So they are even worse than they officially were?
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
This news makes me Cummins.
doublejay1999@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Noice - make sure you get the cash .
tonytins@pawb.social 2 months ago
Cummins CEO: Wears gas mask This is fine.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Corporations have no shame. From the article:
If your neighbor got caught stealing mail, then solemnly declared he’d continue working with the police to reduce theft in the neighborhood, you’d punch him across the face.
ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 2 months ago
I do agree. Unfortunately most manufacturers of diesel engines aren't stoked about environmental regulations and plenty have stopped trying all together.
Currently their plan is to just throw more urea at the exhaust.
I remember them having to bypass the DEF system on a lot of vehicles because they didn't make enough spare parts of the system they put in. So I'm sure they knew either face public backlash or get fined by the government. It was probably a calculation where the 2b was on the cheaper side from them. I'm sure they made enough money that they don't feel the need to fight it.
Once again, not an endorsement. I'm sure every diesel engine manufacturer is/will/was doing the same thing.
vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Seems like the plan right now is similar to Amazon and SpaceXs bet with the NLRB: throw up roadblocks, don’t cooperate, bet on Trump. It’s truly sad to watch.