Submitted 9 months ago by vividspecter@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
Windows MR and HP Reverb headsets to lose all functionality in Windows 11 24H2, so don’t update if you use those headsets.
I find it despicable that support for working hardware can be just abandoned after only a few years, and at least a basic driver should be released (ideally open source) if not the full WMR package, which few cared about anyway.
I’m hoping that Monado takes off at least as I only used Windows begrudgingly anyway.
I am more than a little surprised. Like I get Microsoft is not overly into VR or MR and even their AR headset has stagnated, but to drop support for products people bought in part because Microsoft backed it, then to just drop it is burning customer confidence and trust. Foolish move.
Windows phone/mobile vibe
Its a classic company move tbh. Make something, develop it further, hope it catches on and if it doesnt kill it off because maintaining it costs money.
Its a classic and understandable move. Microsoft has done it a few times tbh. Zune, windows phone, webtv, silverlight, … :')
understandable from a business point of view? sure
Understandable from a customer point of view? get bent
I agree, but no one is really expecting VR/MR/AR/Spatial Computing to be making money right now. It is about investing in the future of immersive tech.
If enough people bought a WMR for that to matter then it wouldn’t be getting shitcanned.
agreed, but if MS innovated and pushed the tech forward more they could have gained a bigger audience by now.
Windows creates so much e-waste.
Not nearly as much as Apple
I dunno, with that TPM 2.0 requirements some still perfectly capable computers won’t be able to run Windows in 2025, at least not one that is kept up-to-date. That’s gonna generate some e-waste in many companies who can’t switch to Linux on a whim.
You’re being down voted because Apple supporting old hardware is the only thing that Apple is good about. Would have done well in almost any other thread.
Plugging in to use a Windows Mixed Reality headset will not work starting with his[sic] build. Windows Mixed Reality is no longer available to users as Windows Mixed Reality has been announced as deprecated. This includes the Mixed Reality Portal app, and Windows Mixed Reality for SteamVR and Steam VR Beta. Existing Windows Mixed Reality devices will continue to work with Steam through November 2026, if users remain on their current released version of Windows 11 (version 23H2) and do not upgrade to this year’s annual feature update for Windows 11 (version 24H2). This deprecation does not impact HoloLens.
No separate driver download at all. It sounds like it will stop working in 2026, even if you don’t update.
Existing Windows Mixed Reality devices will continue to work with Steam through November 2026, if users remain on their current released version of Windows 11 (version 23H2) and do not upgrade to this year’s annual feature update for Windows 11 (version 24H2).
Tldr: fuck you, if you want to use your hardware, bend over and spread your cheeks cuz your OS is gonna be raw digging the security vulns we’ll be releasing over the next 2 years.
This is why I don’t use any ‘features’ that these types of companies push. Core functionality only. Everything else is them screwing around until they get bored or can’t make enough profit then they dump shit and expect you to be happy and follow their next little shit project.
"Monado" has no specific meaning and is just a name.
As a Xenoblade fan, I call BS.
But I do expect we'll see more open source VR solutions and support as adoption increases. They're still in that phase of expensive luxury goods in most cases - PSVR costs more than a PS5 and also requires one to work, Index is $1000, and I don't even know where the Apple headset got its pricing.
Most of these also want to lock down their VR as a platform, instead of being ubiquitous hardware like a monitor, and I think lack of standardization is gonna hurt them in the long run by narrowing their audience.
As a Xenoblade fan, I call BS.
What a bunch of jokers!
Linux could teach 'em a thing or three
I’m hoping the rumoured Deckard is actually a thing, as that will likely be the closest thing to an open source headset.
Microsoft is like Alphabet - why would you adopt anything they make? It’s going to be abandoned with no support long before the devices are worn out, to include desktop and laptop PCs.
As a reverb G2 owner, my rage knows no bounds. Can’t even sell the thing in good conscience.
Former G2 owner here, I felt really scummy selling mine for cheap a year after launch. That purchase was such a fiasco, the damn thing never worked quite right.
Thanks, can we also kill off copilot before it arrives uninvited?
So, this is kind of funny, because when you think “cyberpunk” “high tech, low life”, there always was/is the question of how this tech abundance but also poverty can coexist. Surely it takes a lot of money to build all this?
It’s waste. That’s the answer. It’s the repurposed, discarded corporate trash that didn’t meet the quarterly goal. It’s all starting to make sense you guys!! In new and terrifying ways!
I have one of these, but only use it for SteamVR. Does this mean I can’t update either?
AFAIK, the drivers come from Windows.
Well there’s always LTSC.
It honestly feels good to be on windows 10 LTSC IOT. None of this nonsense bloat installed and you get exactly the security updates you need sparsed out.
I dread the moment I actually have to migrate to Windows 11 but at least this version of Windows 10 I can use like, another 9 years lol.
Agreed, although I believe features like WMR don’t work with LTSC without additional effort, so something to be aware of for those with VR headsets looking to migrate.
That is fair, but personally I felt WMR is a niche feature and those with VRs can game using Steam or other vr application alternatives.
I understand that there are people that wanna use this so I get its stupid they’re pulling away a feature that you actually need.
Don’t make me tap the sign.
TheControlled@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Update: No longer friends with AR/VR. Now Copilot/ChatGPT (OpenAI) is best friend.
Abucketofpuppies@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I can see this meme in my head
Natanael@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
It’s like you have AR built in! (is called imagination)