Submitted 4 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Chinese Carmaker Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker::Elon Musk once scoffed at the notion that BYD could compete with his company. Now, the automaker run by billionaire Wang Chuanfu is poised to be the new No. 1 in electric vehicles.
oh look, someone doing ev that can actually make vehicles, and theyve eclipsed tesla... no wayy..
no one could have predicted this except, ya know, everyone.
@originalucifer @L4s Went and had a look, and they do the same “iPad on wheels” thing that Tesla does.
Honestly, I kinda hate it. Want a car that works like a car, not a gaming rig.
I don’t even care about that. I want a car I can afford and fit my family including luggage in. Give me two hours of battery life with one hour of charging and I’m sold.
Depending on your needs and budget, Edison Motors just announced preorders for diesel/ev hybrid pickup conversion kits. I’m definitely interested in converting my 80’s square body to being a plugin hybrid with no spyware.
Everyone hates on Tesla for obvious CEO reasons. Tesla still has great cars. I test drove every electric car manufacturer and model available in central Florida throughout 2021/2022. The model y is hands down the best in nearly every aspect. Nothing comes close.
The model Y is garbage to any Audi, BMW, or ESPECIALLY Porsche. You are on crack if you think Tesla quality is above the Germans. It’s a shitty muscle car.
Data and consumer reporting consistently rank Tesla as one of, and frequently THE, most unreliable car company by the numbers as far as quality control. It has nothing to do with Musk hate. The company is infamous for ex-managers confessing that they were told to ship them with the defects because most people didn’t bother to have them fixed.
You “only” had a panel issue that required multiday service. That’s not supposed to happen with brand new cars.
I’m glad you enjoy the car and driving it though, I bet they are great when they’re at their best. Apparently, the China-based ones are fine very well. But it’s okay to criticize things that should be criticized.
Out of curiosity, how do you use the self-driving? Do you pay attention to the road with your hands on the wheel in case it fails or do you just, I don’t know, look at the landscape? If you pay attention to the road what’s the benefit over cruise control?
My Renault Megane E-Tech has much nicer interior and better build quality in general than the Tesla Y.
But charging times on the Tesla are really awesomely good
Yes. It’s very fashionable to hate Elon Musk, but unfashionable to acknowledge that someone you hate can do good stuff.
And yet so many people are stuck in the pyramid scheme that is Tesla’s stock.
And those who have ETFs or index funds that track the S&P 500 also have Tesla stock as a hot trash albatross to deal with.
Man, Tesla is known for their very poor quality these days as well.
I recall 6-7 years ago I had a family member complain about their tesla breaking down. Today, we know this is pretty standard for all of them. We’ve also all seen how trashy the build quality is outside the electronics as well.
So… Even if these are trashy quality, are they really much worse than Tesla? I look forward to hearing more. I hope this shames Western companies into catching up, the fucking idiots.
I don’t wanna be that guy, but BYD are not only garbage tofu cars, they are also HEAVILY subsidized by the CCP in an effort to dump on the competition.
You can be that guy all you want, those garbage tofu cars are still dominating the market.
I know they are dominating the market. But I’m explaining why they are. It’s NOT because they make superior cars Each car is sold at a loss with the funding/backing of the China government with the sole purpose to dump(kill domestic competition).
Amazon prime sorta did this on a micro scale. Dump their pricing to kill Barnes and Noble and after they go out of business, they open and replace them with their own stores. But instead of Amazon funding the dump, it’s the god damn CCP and our entire auto industry.
Dominating which market though? China is heavily subsidizing these cars like they do with a lot of new tech when they want to undercut non-Chinese companies. I guarantee if any other manufacturer had similar subsidies, the situation would be different.
How are they garbage? For instance BYD makes the safest batteries available.
You are either not informed or TikTok has brain washed you. BYD leads the pack for most battery related fires than any other car manufacturer.
Got a chuckle out of me
Why are they the safest? Where did you hear that?
Of course they’re garbage, they’re Chinese
I wouldn’t go all out saying all Chinese made things are garbage. The majority of cellphones are produced there and many of them are not garbage.
Are… Are you using your porn alt on this thread perchance?
No, after porn instances got defederated from other instances, I just picked the instance that hasn’t defederated any instances which happens to be the porn instances. I figured it’s the least censored. If I wanted to be censored, I would just go back to reddit.
I wish I had that man’s confidence.
How is that different from Tesla?
How? Teslas that are sold in China are made in China. BYD sold in the UK are made in China.
Because Tesla’s subsidies are good old fashioned American subsidies. Rock, flag, and eagle, right?
Lol he thinks Teslas arent subsidized
I am shocked that a Chinese company with access to materials is selling heavily subsided EVs. Shocked! Meanwhile in the US, nobody can make them in quantity and when they do Americans don’t want them. Shocked!
But it wouldn’t hurt if US could massively subsidize it’s own cheap EV options
Predicted for this quarter. Musk has been scoffing the idea, whilst watching them catch him and simultaneously shooting himself in the foot with his own plans.
Meh, the US will slap enough tariffs on these things to make their own Autoindustry competitive again.
So will the EU.
But china has a gigantic middle-class that can afford these things, so I hope they all switch to EV en masse… it’s a win for the planet!
Tariff slapping had been tried by Trump. Very poor outcomes. There will be a more moderated approach, but we will need to see how that pans out
And still their shares are just a fraction of Tesla’s share price.
Company is beholden to the Chinese government, apparently that is worse than beholden to a manchid and a group of ultrarich shareholders.
Rather ironically, BYD is probably closer to the “value investing” (realistic) value than most hyper-inflated western stocks, which completely decoupled from reality a long time ago…
Atleast Musk and Tesla shareholders aren’t commiting a genocide so the argument could be made that it indeed is less bad.
I remember seeing BYD in China back in the early 2000s with a logo that looks very similar to BMW’s logo. I guess they have to start somewhere by copying somebody. There were also a lot of cars that had fake badges (added by the owner, not the manufacturer) in China, there was a strong desire for the western brands, of course, that’s why Buicks and Audis were so popular in China. I guess I would stay away from that brand until it has proven itself somewhere else from China. Don’t trust any stats published out of China.
Hiw the fuck is Tesla the most popular when their cars are straight up trash?
Are they just more popular, or do they sell more cars?
I hate language like “the economy is mourning” or stuff like the headline.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
The fact that the headline says “Chinese Carmaker” and not “BYD” says a lot about their international market share.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
To be honest, I think it more tells you the article was written by an American for an American audience.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Poorly. Just add the name after Chinese Car maker.
thejml@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I’m not sure if it’s that or clickbait to get you to find out who it is. That kinda crap has been rampant lately.
Could be both though honestly. Either way, I’m sick of it.
Chriswild@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Also says a lot that despite that they still make more. Having more global sales in effectively one country is more impressive if anything.
CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Eh, it’s diminished when that one country holds nearly 17% of earth’s entire population, or nearly as much as the next 6 countries by population combined.
When you have that much market, nearly anything you do will break population-based records.
Fades@lemmy.world 4 months ago
To be fair they are just now entering the US market
Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Huge in Europe and Australia for sure