White AI faces judged human more often than actual human faces

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• Lojcs@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It doesn’t help that all the humans have beauty filters on

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  • BedbugCutlefish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, they got that ‘no pores’ look that selfie filter give, that’s somewhat uncanny looking.

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  • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Human male 40 absolutely does not have a filter, that’s probably why he rated as the most human looking human.

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  • FishFace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not only that but several of them are a bit weird looking (sorry to those people…) as in, 37 and 47 have obvious asymmetries, 31 is a bit bug-eyed, 18 seems to have been taken with a super telephoto lens or have a really flat face.

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  • gullible@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This reminds me of an argument I saw here last week about AI and its use as a grammar checker. You can definitely do it, but you’re going to have all the markers of using AI to cheat.

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    • wischi@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not really, if you write the text first and only apply minor changes to fix the grammer (and not rewrite entire sentences) no AI detector will detect that because the sentence structure and pattern wouldn’t match typical AI output.

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• FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I feel like that "corporate wants you to find the differences between these two photos" meme. Isn't everyone in those photos, in both the top and bottom rows, white?

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  • twotone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    An op? Making a misleading title? On Lemmy?

    Man, it’s as if the severe lack of moderation and rules that so many people wanted when moving from Reddit is hurting the quality of posts on here.

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    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fr fr nobody ever wrote a clickbait headline on reddit ever.

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  • SeaJ@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It turns out that AI faces were rated as more human-like than actual humans

    I tried guessing from the ArsTechnica article and got a whopping 1 out of 8 correct.

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  • Aatube@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    @cyu Could you add “white” between “actual” and “human”?

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• Gregorech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Now show us hands.

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  • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not really much of an issue with SXDL any more, and even SD1.5 got quite good at the end. Admittedly haven’t stress-tested either, though (things like clasping hands etc). It’s also not a hand-specific thing, it just happens more commonly with fingers because they’re small features:

    The thing that happens is that diffusion-type interference first nails down gross structure (which limb is where) and then fills in details. Sometimes steps somewhere in the middle decide that a limb should be somewhere else, though, and suddenly you have two, and if steps immediately after don’t think “that old limb doesn’t look like it should be there” and erase it, later steps will happily refine to photorealism because they don’t even look at the overall composition. That is, it’s not an issue with anatomical knowledge, or not having seen enough hands, but the model changing its mind but not backtracking. It’s actually astonishing how good it can get at not making that mistake without being able to tell that it has two competing goals in mind.

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• NickwithaC@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Imagine being one of those people with a face people think is AI generated.

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  • sleisl@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s the “living on Null street problem” of the future

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• Aatube@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Could you add “white” between “actual” and “human”?

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• Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Creppy to think that none of those faces are real but at the same time do look just like real people.

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• deafboy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Remember when you could’ve just look them in the eyes, and if they were in the center it was not a real human?

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  • jjagaimo@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Such is the miracle of sufficiently trained autoencoders

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• kakes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Kinda makes sense, right? The AI images are a representation of what an AI thinks a human “should” look like, so when another AI (likely trained on a similar dataset) tries to classify them, the AI images will more closely fit what it expects a human to look like.

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  • Zeth0s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is a classification made by humans, not by AI

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    • kakes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ahh, you’ll be unsurprised to hear I didn’t actually read the paper.

      That said, I still generally stand by my comment. While that makes this finding much more interesting, it does also make sense that the AI faces look like what our brains recognize as human.

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  • RecallMadness@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Exactly. The AIs job is to generate humanness. The things that don’t look human get discarded, the things that have strong human indicators get kept. Oh look, the AI did its job. Shocked pikachu.

    The white thing is probably just a case of biased training data. Which is going to be a problem across all AIs. I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5-10 years (if the fad lasts longer than NFTs lmao) we find out the ‘AIs’ have all been fed biased data as yet another means of large corporations controlling the narrative of the population.

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• Cruxifux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Damn human female 31 and AI female 44 can get it tho.

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  • LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    She looks great for 44.

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  • db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t remember where I first saw it, but it’s become a favorite saying: Isn’t it funny how it only takes a pretty face to make you want to put someones genitals in your mouth?

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• tygerprints@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It's very odd, because "white" is not the color of any actual human being's face. Look at the white background against this text. Have you ever actually seen anybody that color? Unless they're coated in whitewash, you have not. Human skin is a complex blend of many different colors from pink to orange to brown to beige and many others also. Every human person is a composition. Nobody is actually white, black, red, or yellow. We're all colors, blended together. Some are lucky enough to have dark complexions that shine like the finest of earth's woods and minerals.

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  • epicsninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ah, you seem confused. “White” is colloquially used to refer people descended from Europeans, particularly the Caucuasus region, due to them typically having much lighter skin tones then people from other regions.

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    • Mahlzeit@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s no rational, scientific connection between the Caucasus and the American race term. I’m not even sure if Americans would consider Caucasians all that white, given that many of them are muslim; like the Chechen ethnicity.

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  • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • tygerprints@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It's true, some people on earth have beautiful dark skin, there's even a magazine targeted toward such people called Mahogany. Just like the finest wood.

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• Nepenthe@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I am uncomfortable to say that I failed 3 of the human ones. In my defense, the guy on the bottom right has pointed teeth like Sweet Tooth

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