I like Enterprise…
There are exactly two types of Star Trek fans
Submitted 1 year ago by Stamets@startrek.website to risa@startrek.website
https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/275b7a3f-dea9-4271-a447-086397733283.jpeg
Comments
stephfinitely@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
It’s not my least favorite Star Trek show. I like it overall. I just feel kinda icky during the decontamination scenes.
eva_sieve@startrek.website 1 year ago
u/Stamets likes his Star Trek hot folks to be fully clothed, damnit! Like Captain Pike! or Doctor Culber! or Captain Pike!
ummthatguy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Of which there are several. Berman is such a horn dog. But here, Stamets, is a shot you might not be too opposed to:
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
It is too serious and “mature” in my opinion.
And the crew is way too homogenous to have interesting scifi relationships between them.
Deebster@infosec.pub 1 year ago
I’m the Worf kind. I suspect that for us non-USA types it’s pretty one-sided.
cam_i_am@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah as an Aussie, faith of the heart comes across as some cringe American power ballad bullshit.
It’s such an insane genre shift from Trek of that era as well. Like how do you have 3 of the most incredible, majestic, orchestral themes from TNG, DS9, and VOY, and decide that what Trek really needs is a Rod Stewart song? It’s bizarre.
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
cringe American power ballad bullshit.
I’m not going to lie, I find this genuinely hilarious.
So the song was originally written by an American named Diane Warren but that’s where the connection to the United States ends. It was originally written for Rod Stewart, an English artist. The Enterprise version however is performed by Russell Watson. An English artist.
mrbubblesort@kbin.social 1 year ago
Also regardless of genre, TV theme songs with lyrics eventually start to feel dated, whereas orchestral themes are always timeless.
Zink@programming.dev 1 year ago
American here, completely in agreement on how bizarre it was.
Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Why would this be a USA vs non-USA thing? I’ve only ever heard it mocked here in the states.
I feel like this is matter of personal taste not nationality, but I could be wrong.
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
Why would this be a USA vs non-USA thing?
I have absolutely no idea. Frankly that’s one of the most bizarre takes I’ve seen in sometime. As you pointed out, the theme is relentlessly mocked in the US. By all Trek fans in general, really. Why someone would immediately make this a nationalistic thing I have no idea.
StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 year ago
It seems such generic American soft rock. Journey or bands like.
No matter that the singer is British and the song was originally written and recorded by Rod Stewart.
Even having lived in the US as a student, I never could understand the appeal of that stuff.
Norgur@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm one of those non-USA-types and I actually liked Archerprise. Not as much as the other series of course, but I'll still watch it every now and then.
TheMongoose@kbin.social 1 year ago
Don’t get me wrong, I preferred Archer’s Theme, but I quite like Faith of the Heart.
Is it my favourite Trek theme? Of course not. But I don’t think it’s awful. I don’t really get the hate for it either.
(Not a Yank, either)
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
I dig it. I hate it as a Star Trek theme, don’t get me wrong, but I still think it’s a fun song. The fact that they’ve tacked it onto Star Trek means that it’s part of it now so screw it. Might as well enjoy it.
Richard@startrek.website 1 year ago
And what would be so bad if I got you wrong? Do you think that Star Trek fans that enjoy Faith of the Heart and find it to be a good Star Trek theme are not proper Star Trek fans? Because it has to conform to your, and the apparent “majority’s”, elitist view that orchestral intro music is inherently superior, and you think that should you oppose this sentiment, you get branded as a traitor and are evicted from this community or what? What is so bad with liking Faith of the Heart as a Star Trek song??? People have different tastes, and no one on this instance has any authority in the slightest to decide such matters.
Rooty@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I like how corny it is, it fits the “pioneers on an exploratory mission” perfectly. Having a bombastic orchestral theme pre-federation makes no sense, the first Enterprise is a sitting duck for just about any starfaring culture, they got boarded by the Ferengi one time, ffs.
Aesculapius@kbin.social 1 year ago
I really liked it when the show first started. I thought the divergence from the regular formula at the time was a nice change. The theme of the song was also on point for the theme of the show - humanity coming into their own on the galactic stage. I'm in the middle of my first rewatch since the show first aired. I still like it. As for adding a base line to it in season 3....WTF?
Stamets@startrek.website 1 year ago
Yeah their decision to add that baseline is insane… There’s another version that’s got a heavier string section as well as a few other alterations. It’s my preferred version of the song because it sounds less rock. This being that version.
CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 year ago
Is Word the John Belushi of TNG?
Hupf@feddit.de 1 year ago
Only if you also use Excel for Data
snake_case@feddit.uk 1 year ago
It’s been a long road
RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 1 year ago
Such an urge to downvote all of you... 😜
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The theme song is one giant setup so the show can drop the Terran Empire intro and make it super jarring.
Killer57@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I find Enterprise isn’t bad for the most part, just don’t bring up the final episode.
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Sorry not sorry.”
GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’d prefer it if the self-hatred and vicious fandom in-fighting were left to Star Wars, where it belongs.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 year ago
The stereotype of the angry nerd is a Star Trek fan at a convention…
And Star Wars fans didn’t start arguing until the Movie Which Shall Not Be Named
wahming@monyet.cc 1 year ago
Think of it as Tuvix and Janeway debating
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m just now on session 2 of Enterprise for the first time.
Can’t decide if I dislike the song more than I do Archer.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The show arguably gets good in season 3, if you can vibe with Dark Archer. And season 4 is pretty much universally praised.
The show found its rhythm right as it got canceled.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Enterprise was done dirty. They should have been allowed at least one more series to deal with the romulans. It was just starting to get good.
Sure the character of Jonathan Archer was a complete idiot who shouldn’t have been allowed in charge of a light switch. But that kind of makes sense because it was only given the job because of who his dad was rather than because he had any skills. No human knew what they were doing at that point in time because no human had really had any interaction with any alien species yet except the Vulcans.
rovingnothing29@startrek.website 1 year ago
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Michael Dorn was vastly under appreciated as a comedian.
Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 year ago
So bubbly and cloying, and happy... just like the Federation. If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it.
RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 1 year ago
It's insidious! ... Just like the root beer 🤣
I want to say I never quite learned to like it, but... I have once or twice maybe hummed along a little. Honestly not much, and the completely unenunciated "isbinna laaooww waaaww" (maybe slightly exaggerating there) bit still irks me but... yeah okay some of it is a lil catchy >.<;
Doug@midwest.social 1 year ago
Cause I got Faayyy of the harrrrr🎵