Submitted 7 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Delta is fourth major U.S. airline to find fake jet aircraft engine parts with forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company::With forged airworthiness documents from U.K. company
I fail to see how someone can understand the aircraft parts industry enough to enter it and become a supplier, and at the same time believe you can get away with forging certifications.
You see parts every day. Maybe you make them. They come with a small stack of certs that you add to. You figure nobody will notice if you do a special process yourself and copy a cert. 500 parts or 501? Maybe 510? Maybe you buy material with no certs, but you verify the conductivity and hardness. You know it’s the right alloy, but it was cheaper. Who’s going to notice? Once you get started, where do you stop?
I’d love to see a breaking bad style dram based on this haha.
They thought - correctly, I might add - that they could get away with it for a while. They just mistimed their exit.
They made their money. They knew sooner or later they would get caught but it doesn’t matter any money they made more than covers it. Same for companies who decide letting people die and paying claims is cheaper than a full recall
This is what right wing, libertarian capitalism gets you.
Every fucking time.
This is not just the right wing. The engine on the left wing should also be checked.
chef’s kiss
Yea we should totally adopt the proven alternatives that are known to work so well and have much better civilian flights /s.
Yes, we absolutely should. I want my planes regulated for safety.
Man this entire country is corrupt from top to bottom.
Look on the bright side here. What we have is a case of parts with some forged documentation. It’s not like planes had bandannas instead of spark plugs. We had a supplier forge some of the very rigorous documentation we require for plane parts. And they got caught. Later than we might have liked, but they weren’t found out because some plane crashed.
Honestly, if you accept that there will always be some bad actors out there, this looks a lot like a system that’s working.
The UK? What else is corrupt there? Not very knowledgeable about it.
The UK Government has stopped court cases investigating corruption, as was the case with a Saudi arms deal. There’s the never ending corruption around members of the royal family selling influence to foreign elements, particularly from the Arabian Gulf but also former Soviet states. There’s the fact London has been the money laundering capital of the world for much of my life, this money has been used to influence politicians to turn a blind eye or even advocate for blatantly corrupt and abusive regimes - Tony Blair, a former head of government, is the best of example of such. He has spent at least a decade “advising” criminal regimes elsewhere on how to massage their images.
Petty corruption is pretty decently under control (you can’t bribe a police officer if they pull you over), but institutional corruption, politicians amd their buddies, that had a field day with COVID measures and is very much alive and kicking.
Fairly sure it’s just a top.
No one else has the money to be corrupt. Although if any of you want to sponsor me, I’m up for it.
Sometimes the thought occurs to me that the only thing standing between me and being absurdly rich by way of saying reprehensible shit on a YouTube channel, is my inconvenient conscience
Thank Trump and Republicans
Yeah, the 1990s was a pinnacle of purity from America…
Find out how this happened and put new safeguards in place to prevent it from happening in the future
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Delta Air Lines Inc. has discovered unapproved components in “a small number” of its jet aircraft engines, becoming the latest carrier and fourth major US airline to disclose the use of fake parts.
The suspect components — which Delta declined to identify — were found on an unspecified number of its engines, a company spokesman said Monday.
The problematic pieces, which were certified by AOG, were detected during engine work by an unnamed third party, the spokesman said.
As many as 21 of Delta’s engines could have been affected, according to Bloomberg calculations based on data provided by the airline, which would represent the most among US carriers that have disclosed a number.
“Working with the overhaul provider, we are in the process of replacing those parts and remain in compliance with all FAA guidelines.”
AOG last month was ordered by a London judge to hand over records to help identify additional suspect parts after GE and Safran filed a lawsuit seeking documents relating to “every single sale of products.”
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Lol. I used to be a Delta fan, but honestly they’ve been just as shitty as the others recently; they don’t seem any better than American or United. At least they’re still better than Spirit, I guess.
I need to remember to cancel my Delta Amex before they charge me another annual fee, it ain’t really worth it anymore IMO.
If you fly just once a year with a companion it’s worth keeping, just not worth spending on especially after the recent SkyMiles gutting.
Imo Delta’s still decently better than United and American but costs disproportionally more, to the point where it’s probably not worth it anymore. I also have a personal dislike of those two for suing Skiplagged (so sleazy) though so I continue to fly Delta. Plus United beat up that doctor and American has a high baggage loss rate.
Does this imply, that if this is happening with major airlines, then the rest of airlines would be less befallen of fake engine parts?
I can imagine that major airlines might not be subject to the level of scrutiny when inspected, as do not-so-established airlines.
I would love to think, that the article describes the worst it can get, regarding fake engine parts in plane construction.
The part supplier is the issue, the airlines weren’t aware they were being sold counterfeit parts. Chances are that many airlines, including small ones, purchased parts from this supplier. I’d be more likely to trust an airline that found these counterfeit parts than one who didn’t, it means they have a good maintenance / inspection system.
I cant speak for the rest of the world, but if any of the affected 65 engines are in aircraft under FAA jurisdiction, the airlines have been digging. This exact scenario is why the FAA has strict traceability standards.
Remember, the safest form of travel is to not travel at all.
Until the plane crashes into your house.
That can happen for any kind of reason, there is no reason to assume its because of faked spare parts. Airplanes are designed to deal with this if and when it happens, engines can fail safely. Hell, engines these days can mostly explode safely.
Flying is extremely safe because we had so many accidents in the past. Today it’s safer to fly than to drive or walk in the car infested cities, especially in the United States.
In the Netherlands, cars are used less and less and those using them drive on very well designed and maintained infrastructure and as such we have very few casualties. In the US, infrastructure is barely maintained, people are barely trained to drive a car, rules are dumb as fuck and as a result, there are a huge punt of casualties from car crashes and accidei, yet I rarely see posts about that.
The good thing is that they can fly with only one engine.
GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 7 months ago
Put people in prison for this.
MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Misconduct@startrek.website 7 months ago
Yeah no I’m gonna go ahead and continue to be ok with building aircrafts and working with dangerous things being regulated 💀
Spellinbee@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I don’t know why you’re getting down voted. Overregulation is crazy, I was watching this interview by the CEO of this company that explores the ocean named Stockton Rush, and he has the same argument that the government needed to stop regulating so much. I should look him up, I’m not sure what happened to him…
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I think they are aiming for quality vs quantity. Flying is the safest way to travel long distances because of those regulations.
Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
All regulation is written in blood. If there was no regulation, everyone would be cutting corners and we’d get daily titan submersible-like situations.
Do you want a piece of suspension up your ass because a cab driver hit a road bump too hard?
Do you want your legs amputated? Because we can make bumpers go lower and more pointy to improve fuel efficiency.
If manufacturers could, they’d drop the catalytic converter and we’d be back to seeing/breathing cars spewing thick black smoke.
devil_d0c@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Guys it’s a bit, he’s doing a bit. Calm down.
AeroLemming@lemm.ee 7 months ago
If we ever find out that these parts were involved in a plane crash, screw prison, put them on trial and treat them like serial killers.