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Uber is letting women avoid male drivers and riders in the US
Submitted 1 month ago by Beep@lemmus.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.uber.com/us/en/newsroom/women-preferences-expands-nationwide/
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clot27@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’d be a win for everyone if we had fewer male babies.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It’s things like this that make me, as a man, to prefer male servers/drivers.
If women chose other women, that’s fine but I do feel bad about the men getting less work, so I think it’s only fair to balance the demand gap by allowing men to chose male servers/drivers.
That behaviour would probably have the opposite effect that the people who created this rule would want.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 month ago
they are choosing women drivers for their safety, you are throwing a tantrum because women wanting to feel safe in the face of a systemic and well documented issue has hurt your feelings.
Allero@lemmy.today 1 month ago
A small percentage of women will ever face any sort of harassment from male drivers.
At the same time, all male drivers will be affected by this feature, reducing their life-supporting income through no fault of their own, simply because they have “male” in their documents. I think that’s the point.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 1 month ago
That behaviour would probably have the opposite effect that the people who created this rule would want.
Why are you suggesting that? Ignoring capitalistic incentives, the rule is theoretically in place to increase safety. Your decision would have no impact on safety so I’m not sure why you think it would have the opposite effect.
XLE@piefed.social 1 month ago
What a relief. I’m glad they addressed the only problem with Uber /s
Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Fuck uber / lyft / skip / dash.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Good
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah, we should just have fewer men in society in general. Reduce the number of male births.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What kind of mental gymnastics did you have to go through to get to that conclusion?
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 month ago
What in the 4B are your comments here?
COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Lyft been doing this since last year too. In Chicago our group of 5 was told to have our two men seated in the back row because the driver wasn’t comfortable with men. We were confused but the driver knew the ride was requested by a woman in our group and therefore assumed the whole group for the Lyft XL would be women I guess?
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Lyft had been doing that for a while.
Also,
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
ebolapie@lemmy.world 1 month ago
i see more complaints about misogyny in the comments here than actual misogyny. Which is good, I’m just wondering what I missed
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Men are upset that women feel the need to protect themselves against men.
GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No, men are upset that there’s nothing they can do to assuage that fear. Imagine if half the world thinks you’re a grenade with a faulty spoon, and there’s nothing you can do to show that you have had your gunpowder removed and cannot explode.
ebolapie@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Okay but where? On balance there are not a lot of those comments and they’re downvoted through the floor. The complaints make it sound like they’re alone in a sea of angry men.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Men dominate the app. Don’t exactly know what this achieves other than being performative
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s the point, Uber can’t get any women drivers so they are offering this. It’s got nothing to do with “empowerment”.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It is performative, but it could also help the male dominated app become not so male dominated, if women are more in demand.
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
The “best solutuon that doesn’t alienate the predators and therefore their money” award goes to. The platform moderation must be in an abysmal state. I consistently get drivers that go 70 through the city (speed limit is 50) I imagine just as much is being done about sexual harassment as bad driving.
lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
I consistently get drivers that go 70 through the city (speed limit is 50)
Not only that, but the same people will call you a bad driver for not breaking the speed limit
mark@programming.dev 1 month ago
I really irks me when people change the titles of the articles they link to to try to fit their narrative. Because sadly people dont really click through to the article. Just share the real title and give your commentary on the comments.
melfie@lemy.lol 1 month ago
Women Preferences Expands Nationwide
The original title only makes sense to people seeing it listed on Uber’s website who are familiar with Uber’s “Women Preferences”. That exact title without modification doesn’t provide enough context for a random post on Lemmy, IMO.
I do agree that it’s annoying when posts change the title in a way that didn’t accurately reflect the linked article, but I don’t think that’s necessarily the case here.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The link isn’t to inform people, it’s to make the title more beleivable.
MrsVeggies@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I wish I could opt out of interacting with men more. Kind of crazy they weren’t doing this sooner.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 month ago
People who talk like this tend to not interact with anyone, they just sit in their house all day writing comments like this
MrsVeggies@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Of course you would know… 🙄
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I wonder what happens when the guy identifies as a woman.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
If you’re confused about the down votes, it’s probably the way you worded this thought. Saying it’s a man identifying as a woman, implies you believe they are a man not a woman and are only treating them as a woman because that’s what they want. In reality they are a woman who identifies as a woman.
I think you being downvoted and not getting an explanation as to why might leave you to continue the same line of thinking without correction.
It’s not a bad question to ask how this will affect trans women though. I live in a place where there are a lot of TERF women who might want to take advantage of this service and would be offended to be picked up by a trans woman.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Appreciate the feedback, you are correct I didn’t mean it in a derogatory way.
I meant someone born biologically male that identifies as a woman but because of that underlying biology has some male looking characteristics.
Perhaps just a very poorly way of saying “what happens when the black and white nature of the rule they have set runs into the reality of a woman that doesn’t look like a traditional woman, and the passenger has an issue with that based on their own expectations?”
Semester3383@lemmy.world 1 month ago
In re: TERFs, transgender people make up a very small part of the general population, roughly .5%. The odds that any given TERF would get picked up by an UBER driver that is a transwoman are very low.
I suspect–and I’d need to be checked on this–that you would need to have gotten your gender marker changed on your driver’s license in order for Uber to correctly identify your gender. And that makes it an even smaller subset of trangender people that could trigger TERFs. OTOH, I could absolutely see a TERF going ballistic over a cisgender woman that wasn’t fully gender-conforming…
m3t00@lemmy.world 1 month ago
preference, let me drive.
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Uber
drivercar babysitter shows up, you get in driver seat, drive to destination, return car to Uberdriverperson.Foolproof.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 month ago
They should call it Hajib Level Service and charge double.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 month ago
this smells like a setup for some legal strategy against trans-folks
XLE@piefed.social 1 month ago
this smells like a setup for some legal strategy against trans-folks
Funny thing is, you’re absolutely right. Even if Uber doesn’t mean to lay the groundwork for a future culture war, they would love more infighting while they can shirk responsibility towards their workers.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
a rich person driving for uber? lol
robocall@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Will women drivers be high in demand since the majority of drivers are men?
MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 month ago
It will increase the demand, yes.
Poteau_Poutre@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I think I have only seen a woman driving my cab only once or twice.
me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world 1 month ago
[deleted]sveltecider@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
It’s not stereotypes if statistically, most people who are SAd are women and most of the perpetrators are men. This isn’t just “peace of mind.”
Ask a woman who is drunk after the club late at night if she would prefer a male or female driver when she’s alone in an uber/cab and 99% will say yes.
But people will say like “oh but statistically some race commits more crime, is racism ok?” it’s not the same because patriarchy is global and is found in most cultures, sadly. So a woman wouldnt exactly be much safer with a white man vs a black man.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Very fair nowadays, you should never trust anyone, and our society should be based on anti-trust. Humans lost their trust license, and only some sort of genetic engineering project on a massive scale would be able to fix that.
I perfectly understand why women are intimidated by men, some strong, potentially entitled guy can do god knows what to you if he chooses violence.
Why leave it to chance?
BigTrout75@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Makes me wonder if the next option will be language.
TwilitSky@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Honestly, I don’t care about gender. Can you keep them off the phone and silent (goes both ways, I will do the same).
raven@lemmy.org 1 month ago
Male drivers probably want that too. Especially the drunk women.
DrSoap@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There was an exposé about the staggering number of sexual assaults last year by the new york times. Some people were drawn to this job for the wrong reasons. You read some of these women’s stories and its horrifying.
I’m dowdy and older and even I have had some questionable interactions. Once an uberdriver invited himself to to bar I was meeting my friends at. Half an hour after dropping me off, he walks in and gets a drink and just stares. I don’t drink because of medication but this was definitely a niche place that you don’t grab a drink at spur of the moment. It was so uncomfortable and we left pretty quickly. Idk what his intentions were but I didn’t want to find out. It was so unsettling.
Sometimes getting a ride is necessary. And when that happens, maybe it’s better that there are options. I’m sure Uber didn’t make this decision out of the goodness of their hearts but because of the lawsuits and the number of women who were dropping off of their platform.
A lot of the responses here seem to be taking it personally as if they are being called assaulters themselves. Some people are even making jokes like good riddance. It’s rude af and belittling. Not everything is black and white and not everything can be understood from a perspective of privilege. It might not feel like it, but women navigate the world looking over their shoulder and not having that feeling in of itself is a privilege
Highlights of the article: youtube.com/shorts/5nwnr_aln9o
starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I think it’s just not having people in your life telling you how bad it is. I have a friend who changed her name on Facebook to avoid stalkers, something I wouldn’t have even thought of at all. It still feels bad when I feel like she (subconsciously) feels scared being around me though, I don’t want to make people afraid by just existing.
raven@lemmy.org 1 month ago
So what’s the point? Its a win-win drivers and passengers both right? Because the male drivers also face problems like threat of a false accusation, vomit in the car, cancelling ride in-between and not getting paid or being robbed.
A friend of mine used drive a cab for a company that took night shift employees from workplace to their homes. He was allowed to use that cab as a taxi in off time, so he did that to make some extra money. A hardworking man with a good character. He got a ride from a nightclub to some hotel or some place (I don’t recall that). He does not drive anymore, he left that job and has started some other work. Not all men are bad, and not all women are good.
The passenger was so drunk that she couldn’t even get into the car by herself. So he helped her into the backseat and then he started driving. She cancelled the ride mid-way and when he asked her to get off, she attacked him from backseat and threatened him with a false accusation. To his good luck, the guy had a two-way recording dashcam in the car, that he used to save himself.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
As a man, I also want to ride with a woman driver, for my safety.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Uber is not the safest. This is fair.
Nierninwa@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Someone at Uber watched Bojack Horseman…
alexanderniki@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And the interesting question is what if XY human being identifies itself as a woman?
otp@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Why’s that interesting?
Are they going to be doing DNA tests? Pants checks?
alexanderniki@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It is ineresting because a man could pretend that he idetifies himself as a woman. What should a driver/passenged do in such a situation?
devolution@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You can thank conservatives for this needing to occur. And when I say conservatives, I’m not simply talking about white, christian males either. I’m talking about ALL conservatives.
wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I dunno I suspect left leaning Nice Guys have rapists amongst them as well.
devolution@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You mean fake left leaning like Joss Wheadon?
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Ah we’ve never seen this before. Something something Epstein.
GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Supply and demand. If that’s what they want, fine. But that might limit ride availability.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
We should have fewer male babies.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Driving for one of these companies is a hard wash anyways. I’m glad women can get out safe though. Personally I don’t care who picks me up, I can small talk with anyone and not be threatening. I have 4 daughters and a wife. I don’t need more women drama.