Evidence seems to indicate that research causes cancer in mice.

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• Sharkticon@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There was a West Wing joke somewhat similar to this.

  Margaret: Red meat has been found to cause cancer in white rats. Maraschino cherries have been found to cause cancer in white rats. Cellular phones have been found to cause cancer in white rats. Has anyone examined the possibility that cancer might be hereditary in white rats?

  Surgeon General Millicent Griffith: Let me tell you something, I’m not a hundred percent sure we’ve ruled that out.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Rodent model studies are mostly done in very inbred mouse models. Toxicity and cancer data is typically done at doses a human could not possibly get in a lifetime.

    Remember when BPA was a hormone in plastic? BPA was originally a failed attempt to make a synthetic hormone, the only way they could see anything like a hormone effects was when they injected huge amounts into rodent muscles. People went stupid with media driven fear.

    Junk science is a waste of time and money.

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    • Sharkticon@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      See I posted a joke from an early 2000s television show, and then you posted all that.

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• actionjbone@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  c/shittyyoushouldknow

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• GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  100% of people that drink water and eat food die over the long term.

  Would you be willing to let your children risk dying from this spurious correlation?

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    no, but if they drink Monster and eat meat they won’t turn gay.

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• fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The sad part is that you’re not too far off from many fields of research. For example, research in neurodegenerative diseases in humans tested on mouse models means acquiring mice with diseases that they can’t get. So, you instead use gene-edited or generically engineered mice that are designed to exhibit all of the symptoms of a human neurodegenerative disease, and then try changing those symptoms in the mice in hopes that you’ll learn something that can be translated to humans.

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• YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Mice aren’t meant for too much of ANYTHING. A friend in ChemE said the mice that got cancer from saccharin (Sweet N Low) were the size of plates, they had gained so many calories from such a large dose.

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  • TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A dinner plate? They’re not researching cancer, they’re trying to master pokemon evolutions

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• mech@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No dangerous cancers, though.
  None of the mice have ever died from it.

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• snek_boi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  lol

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  • lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Indeed. By which I mean, where are the controls? How could a control even exist for such an experiment? Any non-research mouse becomes research by default.

    And blah blah blah that’s what they want you to think. lol

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    • kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Reminds me of a recent xkcd: xkcd.com/3201

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