Piracy communities remain blocked on lemmy.world despite "Unremoval of Piracy Communities" announcement

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨fediverse@lemmy.world⁩

“Unremoval of Piracy Communities” lemmy.world/post/6018317

This post needs to be updated to reflect the current policy.

Six months later, a new Removal of piracy communities announcement confirmed that these communities had been removed. !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, which was the most popular piracy community, is still inaccessible to lemmy.world users. This is misleading: users see the old post, sign-up, and then find out they cannot access the community.

Please edit the original post to include the new removal announcement.

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favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s why it’s nice not to use lemmy.world

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- goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Turns out the admins and community moderators there lie or just don’t care, mild shock.
  
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mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I had no idea this was a thing. Interesting. I can see from liability why this is not something they want to touch, being a general purpose instance.

I think lemmy/fediverse needs a place where if you try and subscribe to something blocked, you get a post/page explaining why they did the thing. Its going to confuse new users otherwise.

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- jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  IIRC when it was implemented in the first place, it seemed like lemmy.world had actually been contacted by some stakeholder with a DMCA-style request, even though the community was not actually originating on lemmy.world. Explaining how federation worked to lawyers didn’t matter much and with .world at the time becoming one of the larger and more visible instances that seemed like the best way to avoid the headaches. Initially they defederated with dbzer0 entirely before developing a way to block just the community.
  
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  - freeman@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Considering the bullshit spewed by them to justify their ban of pro-Luigi comments, claiming they consulted a lawyer, I doubt this ever happened.
    
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Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Laughs in @lemmy.dbzer0.com.

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- onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The strength of the fediverse is exactly this: don’t like what an instance admin is doing? Move to another instance or create your own.
  
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- Willoughby@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  defederates Feddit
  
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  - alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You say that as if it’s a gotcha, not a boon
    
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  - Astertheprince@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s a pro in my book considering I had harassment directed my way by a feddit admin.
    
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Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s why I run my own instance, dont like others decide what must be censored for me.

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- IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I hope to do that too one day
  
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  - Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Its not that difficult you need a VPS or a public reachable ip at home and docker/podman.
    
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- Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Would love to know how to do that. Like to not be censored.
  
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  - Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes I use docker, I have documented my effort here wiki.gardiol.org/doku.php?id=services%3Alemmy
    
    It was pretty easy and require zero maintenance, just remember to update the containers. Space utiliztion and resources are pretty low, depending on how many communities you subscribe.
    
    Also, I host it at home (with public reachable ip of course)
    
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- Fedditor385@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  But so you can decide for others what you want to censor for them. Because I can name a few things that you would probably want ASAP removed from your instance, if someone posted such things.
  
  Everyone would do the same if they personally were exposed to legal liability.
  
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  - mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I highly suspect that they’re the sole user on their instance. That’s fairly common for people who just want to avoid the headache of dealing with rogue admins. Just spin up an instance, and then your server only federates with the instances and communities that you directly interact with. No need to worry about the “things you would want removed ASAP” unless you’re the one seeking out those things.
    
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  - Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I am my only user, so…
    
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- xvertigox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  So you run your own instance and federate with other instances as you please? How are you hosting it / is it doable via docker?
  
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  - alonsohmtz@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes, you can use docker: join-lemmy.org/docs/…/install_docker.html
    
    I recommend using a VPS for wireguard and a cheap used workstation like a Dell Optiplex for the actual hosting. That way you can forward all ports without your ISP knowing.
    
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  - Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes I use docker, I have documented my effort here wiki.gardiol.org/doku.php?id=services%3Alemmy
    
    It was pretty easy and require zero maintenance, just remember to update the containers. Space utiliztion and resources are pretty low, depending on how many communities you subscribe.
    
    Also, I host it at home (with public reachable ip of course)
    
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Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s been 2 years, what made you dig that up?

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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Because nothing has changed?
  
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  - Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    People have had 2 years to switch to another instance. Lemmy.zip, used by OP, is nice.
    
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- pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I wasn’t know that before I’m new
  
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herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
lemmy.world is my least favourite part of lemmy.

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- Luci@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Wait until I tell you about .ml
  
  Oh wait…. Shit, sorry.
  
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  - schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Hi, I am from an instance no one ever seems to talk about and when reading these kinds of threads I am glad I made that choice. 😁
    
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  - Shatur@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I recently read an interesting comment about .ml that I think is worth sharing: lemmy.ml/post/42725005/23793647
    
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- pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  also lemmy.ml
  
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theblurstoftimes@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s rich coming from fedi. On pexelfed there’s a guy that takes pictures of people’s faces, cars, license plates, and homes with addresses and nothing can be done about it. I just flat out blocked this ugly looking fucker but he still shows up on my feed. You can’t report him so it dawns on me that there’s also nothing that can be done on Pixelfed or other platforms on fedi about harassment or doxxing.

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- pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Okey you can defederate completaly this kind of illegal things.
  
  But for political reasons we shouldn’t do that
  
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- anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Wait what? Just random people or does he target certain people? Not that one is better or worse but this is just…. I dunno sounds like an angry person with untreated neurological issues.
  
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  - theblurstoftimes@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m sorry if this goes against any rules, i don’t know but on pixelfed they go by iZone and Zf@c.im he’s not doing anything wrong against users but the pics he takes are what a stalker would take.
    
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pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I didn’t mean this post would make people talk about whole federation and censorship. Looks like we really need to talk about Federation and Censorship

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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  so why don’t lemmy.today block them :D
  
  I’m suprised someone on lemmy.today says that
  
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  - whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m just speculating, but maybe the owner is in a different country? Not everything is America and even the EU varies somewhat in laws and regulations. Then there is the entire rest of world. And finally different people have their individual morals and stances and what risks they are willing to take for others. Regardless I don’t see any need to bash anybody else over this. Just switch to an instance by your own preference and be done with it. If it is really that important; run an instance of your own, private or public, and deal with it yourself.
    
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- REDACTED@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  By law, you cannot host and distribute licensed/copyrighted content, not talk about it. Not even reddit bans piracy related subs. Pretty sure FitGirl (was that the one?) uses a subreddit as official community.
  
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Canyon201@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Unclear if AI bot, or insane person having a stroke.
  
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  - FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    My flair on that account from presumably another thread is “neoliberal troll”
    
    So I think it’s just bait.
    
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