Excellent news ! I have been preaching the good word of Codeberg for months, delighted to see it’s working.
If I can get NixOS to move, I will be the happiest gal in the world…
Gentoo Linux Begins Codeberg Migration In Moving Away From GitHub, Avoiding Copilot
Submitted 2 weeks ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Gentoo-Starts-Codeberg-Use
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arcine@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
clot27@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Everyone should follow
Ladislawgrowlo@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
why? github offers basically free hosting for software. as long as git clone works, everything should be fine?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Because Microsoft owns github.
Even without them plugging LLMs into it, using it all as training data, they could easily do a more standard enshittification of it.
Oh you have a free github account, you can do X amount of pulls and commits per month, otherwise, subscribe to GitHubPro for $5 a month.
Oh you host some software that’s used to antagonize our corporate partners?
Even though its not actually illegal?
Poof, gone, just like when the credit card companies decided nsfw games are verbotten.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
basically free
What does that mean?
as long as git clone works
Granted, I still use code form github.
But the person you’re replying to meant that everybody who still hosts code on GH should gtfo.
And if you peek behind the curtains of software projects, many more made that move already a long time ago.
deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Everything owned by Microsoft is in immediate danger of failing to work correctly forevermore.
festus@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Other people have good points, but even if you don’t care at all about open source or MS, Github’s reliability lately has been really bad. I think they’ve had 3 outages this month already? It’s been disruptive at my workplace and we have concerns about how we’d deploy a fix if we had an outage at the same time (since our deploys are automated using GH Actions).
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Jesus, all the pro-AI scum are coming out of the woodwork in force today to try and say this is a bad idea.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
More distros need to follow. No FOSS should have any relationship to Microsoft or their products.
ArkHost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did this few months ago. Everyone should do the same.
baronvonj@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Gentoo is still around‽ But Arch exists and eMachines was discontinued like 10 years ago!
cecilkorik@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
I know this is probably sarcastic but honestly Gentoo’s great if you don’t trust binaries by default. Nothing is an absolute guarantee against compromise, but it’s an awful lot harder to compromise a source code repository or a compiler without anyone noticing (especially if you stick to stable versions) than it is to compromise a particular binary of some random software package. I trust most package maintainers, but they’re typically overworked volunteers and not all of them are going to have flawless security or be universally trustworthy.
I like building my own binaries from source code whenever possible.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Genuine question from a longtime Linux user who never tried Gentoo - doesn’t updating take forever? I used a source build of firefox for a bit and the build took forever, not to mention the kernel itself
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Gentoo is more linux than anyhing. It is literally a penguin. What does Arch have?
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gentoo is still a better distro, it underpins every ChromeOS device (they just do the compilation for you)
grue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t necessarily disagree with the first sentence (fan of Gentoo; never used Arch), but the second sentence is not helping its case.
Kissaki@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
The beef cause of training claim is wrong.
Quoting the Gentoo post:
Mostly because of the continuous attempts to force Copilot usage for our repositories,
It seems to be about GitHub pushing copilot usage, not them training on data. (Moving away doesn’t prevent training anyway. And I’m sure someone will host a mirror on hitting if they don’t.)
user28282912@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Excellent!
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It’s funny that all the pro-AI chuds suddenly coming out of the woodwork to try and say this is a terrible idea, it’s almost like these posts have become brigaded.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hold on …
Are you saying all software hosted on github is infected with copilot? Or am I misreading the situation?
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 2 weeks ago
Your confusion is understandable since MS has called like 4 different products “Copilot”. This refers to the coding assistant built into GitHub for everything from CI/CD to coding itself.
All code uploaded to GitHub is subject to being scraped by Copilot to both train and provide inference context to its model(s).
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
No kidding: That was literally my very first thought back in the days when I heard that M$ has taken over GitHub.
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
No, it isn’t.
“Basically” your vibes aren’t an actual answer. Businesses are not forking over millions to give away their code.
You can have conspiracy theories about it using the code anyway (I’m particularly confused about your use of the word “scrape” which tells me you don’t know how AI training works, how hosting a website works, or how scraping works - maybe all three?) but surreptitiously using its competitors’ code to train CoPilot would be a rare existential threat to Microsoft itself.
github.com/features/copilot#faq
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Copilot steals from all the code on github.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 weeks ago
I guess it’s about copilot scanning the code, submitting PRs, reporting security issues, doing code reviews and such.
TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Copilot is everywhere and inescapable on any m$ service.
Ladislawgrowlo@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Is this not an advantage? If AI can find new security vulnerabilities reliably?