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You board a train, board a bus, and board a ship, but you don't board a car

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨lonefighter@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Probably because cars are personal and the rest are mass transit. It’s not yours, but you pay to get on board when needed.

    I have to explain to non-English speakers why you get in a car or a taxi but get on a bus or train.

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    • tychosmoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It seems to me that the preposition usage corresponds to the boarding language pretty closely. Where “on” sounds most natural is also where “boarding” seems most appropriate.

      Here is one linguist’s take, with proposed usage cases at the end: itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/…/005224.html

      The schedule/route condition makes a lot of sense to me. Consider a bus converted to personal use as an rv:

      “I boarded my bus and drove to the mountains” is a valid English sentence, but it sounds odd to me. But if it’s still a regular bus and drove->rode it works.

      “I drove to the mountains in my bus” sounds better. Same vehicle as a city/school bus, different context. Change to a regular bus and drove->rode doesn’t sound right without also changing “in my” to “on the”.

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    • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Interesting approach, but where does that leave taxis?

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    • NachBarcelona@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You board a coach, even if it’s your own coach with them HOERSENS IN FRONTA DEM!!!

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  • RickyRigatoni@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because then it would be carboard

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  • fizzle@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not true. When you’re in a car you’re “onboard”.

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Sure you d. It’s just not something people commonly say.

    But boarding and disembarking a car is totally valid language.

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    • NachBarcelona@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I disembark the beamer babyeah-oh! I disembark the Bee Emm Double You!

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You board a taxi, though.

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  • shiftymccool@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You also ride on a bus or on a ship but you ride in a car

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    • melfie@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also motorcycles and bicycles.

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  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think it has to do with the fact that in the first three, you can (and do right after entering) stand up (like on a ship, probably where this was first used), while in a car you immediately sit down?

    But ultimately this is a trait of the English language, in my first language (German) we “steigen ein” in all of these.

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  • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You board something you can move around in or on. You get in or on smaller methods of transport.

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ll agree that it comes down to the personal vs. group nature of the vehicle. Maybe also who is controlling the vehicle (professional vs. amateur)

    You don’t board a motorcycle or a horse. You don’t board a unicycle or bicycle. You don’t board a kayak or conoe or a jetski or a dingy.

    You DO board a stagecoach, pulled by horses. You do board a trawler or a fishing vessel.

    I don’t board my own van. I do board the intercity bush taxi (the same van with staff and better paint).

    Likely all related to use of “board” for ships and devolved from there.

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  • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You definitely board a taxi though

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  • ivanvector@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not with that attitude

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  • NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You also can’t “squeeze into” a bus, ship or train, but you can into a car. It’s a matter of scale.

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You can absolutely squeeze into a train or bus … they tend to be quite full sometimes.

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      • NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Fair point…

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    • blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Ever tried to get on a bus or the tram/tube/metro at rush hour?!

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      • hoch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, because I live in the US and have no concept of public transportation.

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  • Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Image

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    but you can board (up) a house

    (like boarding up the windows)

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Most of the time anyone who travels by care are or can be the driver of the conveyance. That is very rare for people who travel by train, bus, ship, plane.

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  • medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Perhaps it has something to do with trains, buses, and ships being operated/driven by others? You also board an aircraft, a ferry (okay, that’s a ship, but still), hot-air balloons…

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  • Lag@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You used to need to cross a board or a plank to get on the ship or train but you don’t need that for a car.

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  • JoShmoe@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Witness me!!

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  • ShaggyBlarney@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can walk on board a bus, boat or train. You sit down into a car.

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  • Admetus@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m getting because it’s a process in which you need to show a valid ticket of travel (or buy it) while boarding.

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  • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If you had seen my lemon yellow 1983 Cadillac you wouldn’t say that.

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