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• Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Whatever they find is inadmissible, if there truly wasn’t a warrant.

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  • jeansburger@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Doesn’t mean they can’t use it for parallel construction

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    • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Does Dutch/EU law have that?

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  • sudoku@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    this isn’t in US

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    • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      repository.tilburguniversity.edu/…/download

      EU has similar laws and Dutch law allows for striking illegally collected evidence if the infringement was severe

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    • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Laws exist outside of that country.

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    • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The same goes for NL.

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• carrylex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Too sumarize the article:

  US clickbait and ad invested news website directly quotes “trust me bro” Twitter post + describes in 2 sentences what a ramdisk is and does zero real “journalism” like maybe contacting mentioned dutch authorities or Windscribe themselfs.

  Once again: Ban Tom’s Slopware. Post the original source instead.

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• NepGinger@lemy.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What authorities exactly? How did they get their hands on these servers without being let in? Do they have a response to this all being put on twitter? Even the article doesn’t mention reaching out to “Dutch authorities” for comment, in a great journalistic failure to clarify anything.

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• gressen@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Got it, do not use IT services in Denmark.

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  • deadmyk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dutch is not Denmark. Dutch is Netherlands

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    • sunbeam60@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Oh you’re Danish! You should meet my friend Geert Van den Berg, he’s also from Dutchland!”

      If I had a penny for every time, I’d have at least three fiddy.

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    • lesinge@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      An important distinction lol

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    • pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=-csGDoSSZyc

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• Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  To what end? What authority? At this point it could be you or me in a mask with a body cam, for all the credentials authorities are showing these days.

  Spoiler: it was a random thief in need of hardware.

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  • P1nkman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The thief just want to set up their own gaming server; issue is that it’s too expensive to purchase, so it’s easier to steal it.

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    • FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Imagine all the €€ worth of ram in there at current prices 😅

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Good odds that type of thing is happening more than is being told.

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• flowers_galore2@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  RAM disks alone will not be enough; the law enforcement can literally freeze the DRAM for forensics.

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  • BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Police have had, since the late 90s I think, the “Hotplug” which is a special battery pack / generators that provide a special power plug where you can gently loosen the existing plug, slide the generator’s plug in place over it, then remove the computer from the main supply while keeping it powered on.

    Power plug locks only buy you time or prevent casual mayhem; the police can work around those.

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    • Strawberry@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m intrigued how that would work with some styles of plug that disconnect before coming out of the socket like the uk type-G plugs. Unless they’re not touching the socket itself and connecting somewhere else?

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    • DancingTable@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Should build the software so the second it loses internet connection, or its IP address changes, it clears the ram.

      Cannot move a server without it losing internet, and even if they find a way around it, it’d still force an IP address change.

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    • tuxiqae@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Interesting

      cdsg.com/products/hotplug-field-kit

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    While it is running…

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  • xylogx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As long as they have no logs the only thing you could get from memory is encryption keys, which can be rotated.

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• TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Free advertising for Windscribe if their claims are true. Also a lot of people in the thread spreading fud about it without any real evidence. I know because I actually tried to search for it. They are based in Canada and as such part of the Nine Eyes group, but they have a heavy no-logs focus towards privacy. What was seized was one of their Dutch proxies running on ram drives. They could put all the effort they want into preserving power, it doesn’t mean much if all they don’t have any logs except the vaguest of statistics. It doesn’t matter how mature they are if the privacy practices are there.

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• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Police have UPS-like devices which splice into existing mains cables to keep machines alive on the way into the forensics lab. Presumably it’s standard practice to use those.

  Of course, the server could be configured to wipe itself if it loses connectivity for more than a few seconds, or its routing changes. The police would need devices that route Ethernet traffic over 5G, though those would presumably be detectable as bandwidth goes down and latency goes up.

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  • glitch1985@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No clue if data centers in other countries are similar to the ones in the US but the handful I’ve been in are basically Faraday cages with zero cellphone service inside so it would be quite the feat keeping any kind of internet connection after the ethernet cable is removed.

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• vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh no, without a warrant. How could they. How impolite. No, our security is only intended for jurisdictions with law-abiding police.

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  • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fun fact, but you can’t really do much if the police decide to just take your stuff, because they have guns. And likely more than you do.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes. They should perhaps dispose of that server when returned, or thoroughly examine all the firmware and such for changes. A hostile party has touched it.

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• zer0bitz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That is why you dont use VPN. See you guys in I2P.

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  • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mullvad is safe. They were raided and the authorities got nothing.

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  • FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, this is just why you don’t use Windscribe.

    They have a reputation for being in a legislation where they have to save logs. They themselves know that they’re the “black sheep” among VPN providers, which is why they continuously make cheap offers and use raunchy advertising, like this one: Image

    Doesn’t take a genius to figure out that their VPN is likely insecure

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