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Neocities deindexed from Bing

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨nightlily@leminal.space⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://blog.neocities.org/blog/2026/01/27/bing-block.html

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  • RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Before you say haha no one is using bing… Your beloved DuckDuckGo uses bing results and this means it’s censored there too. And it’s not only about the start page neocities.org (which can be found with DuckDuckGo via Wikipedia Snippet). None of the hosted sites are in the index.

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    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well is that true? I searched duckduckgo and kagi something and neocities and both gave results. Bing did not.

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      • RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I chose a random neocities website and searched with both DDG and Google. The search was “irony machine neocities” without quotes. Google yielded a result which pointed to the correct URL irony-machine.neocities.org while DDG did not.

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    …people use Bing?

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    • xylogx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Dick Duck Go gets its search results from Bing.

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      • NotSteve_@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        IIRC that’s just one of the backends they use for their results

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      • Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I just opened neocities.org with it, but nothing specific.

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    • osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I can't even convince my spouse to switch to firefox to get adblocking back. Browsers are entirely transparent to most users :\

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      • otterpop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If you’re savvy, look at blocking them at the dns level with software like pihole or blocky.

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      • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Just install it and change the icon.

        Wait, what browser are they using that doesn’t support plugins? IE11?

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    • hornedfiend@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      For normies Chrome IS the internet.

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      • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        “Normies” don’t use PCs anymore. Whatever apps the phone vendor preinstalled, Web or other, is the internet.

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      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You’re probably too young to remember that in an old version of windows, Internet Explorer’s desktop icon was labeled “The Internet”. Nowadays, people think Google is “the internet”. My boomer dad says he “has Gemini”… bruh, you’re just searching shit on Google.

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    • missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This also applies to the results on Duckduckgo so I assume this affects a lot of people here.

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    • toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      ...people use Geocities?

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      • Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Neocities; Geocities is dead.

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  • eleijeep@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t want unmoderated* information and opinions appearing in Microslop search results now would you?

    *unmoderated by Big Tech Fascist AI Filters

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  • yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Bing/DDG has also blocked the emulation wiki (emulation.gametechwiki.com) for some reason. I noticed when I forgot the domain and tried looking for the site.

    For the record, Google returns it as the top result.

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Why?

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  • Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Man, who could hate Neocities? There’s so many gorgeous “retro” websites on there. Brings me back to my childhood.

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  • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    laughs in Kagi

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    • BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Money bags over here is laughing at us

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      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The price of one coffee a month. Bling bling, mothafuckas!

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      laughs I at least my search results aren’t tied to a credit card holder which identifies me

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    • Tim_Bisley@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Does kagi do its own indexing?

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      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Some, especially for “small web” sites.

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  • Auster@thebrainbin.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So, going by the blog post, the entire domain got sanctioned due to a few (proportionally speaking) malicious domains?

    If so, wtf 💩

    Also, for things like this, I'd suggest linking to sites one uses (Neocities or otherwise) between one's friends and followers so discovery of sites flow through the chain of trust. Not as fast discoverable, but avoids algorhithm decisions like this, or shadow ban, or ill-intended sites paying to appear higher, or so on.

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  • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    will ig am switching off DDG

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    • EtherWhack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Startpage seems nice. Uses sanitized results from Google and while it does have an AI feature, it’s opt-in (not out) and looks to also be sanitized.

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      • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It has sponsored results though.

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      • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I want to (try) relying less on Google And Microsoft so I decided to try mojeek.

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      • Tim_Bisley@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I wanted to use start page but this site and others don’t have a forum search.

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  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    While I think it’s shitty that they did this, part of me also kind of likes it. The most resilient form of web behavior includes bookmarking sites and discovering new sites by them linking to each other, rather than getting all your sites from a search engine. I get that search engines are useful for lots of things. But maybe this will help kick people’s search engine addiction if they realize there’s lots of good stuff out there that you can’t trust a search engine to surface.

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      We need a “Fedi-Search engine”

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      • modus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        searxng.org

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      • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes I do think something like this would be nice. We don’t need one giga search engine with a huge index of everything. Specialized search engines with genre specific indices would be more individually maintainable, and diverse

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      • neblem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        fedi-search.com which just adds the site parameters for different popular instances for the major search engines is probably the closest we have.

        Marginalia.nu at least indexes the small web, but to my knowledge doesn’t really index the fedi yet.

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  • ptmb@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I was hoping qwant, with its own (partial) search index, would be immune to it, but searching for neocities also doesn’t show any results for neocities.org there unfortunately, or at least it did not for me.

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  • neblem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Looks like its showing in the DDG results for me this evening.

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  • dlrdp@lemmy.poudlar.do ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Damn they rarely even speak, previous post is from 4 years ago

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Oh no! Bing got to this guy too!

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