Australia’s strongest gun reform since the Port Arthur massacre has become law. Here’s what you need to know

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• Tau@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It will be an offence to use a carriage service to access material on the manufacture or modification of guns and accessories, as well as other explosives or lethal devices.

  This has such broad potential for misapplication, but apparently everyone throws critical thinking out the window because guns are scary…

  I think the gun number limit is also a kneejerk reaction playing more on people’s fears rather than actually being logical, but at least it’s affecting less people than the above.

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  • Dimand@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I would say it’s pretty typical of all Aus communication and intelligence legislation from the last 20 years. Put total overreach into the legislation then apply it selectively, because scary terrorists or scary guns or fucking bunyips, idk.

    I have seen a lot of wives and mates getting gun licences recently. Pretty easy way to overcome the rather pointless quantity limitations. In some ways I worry the number limits may actually increase the spread of firearms in the country.

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  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thought crime is so awesome.

    You looking up info about poisonous plants? Clearly a murderer! Read true crime describing how someone stalked someone? Obviously you’re about to do it.

    Thought crime wooh all aboard the fucking thought crime train. Intent? Harm? No you thought bad thoughts and gained black and fell knowledge. To the torture cells with you!

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Is “carriage service” a weird legal way of saying bus?

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    • Tau@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s a way of saying a method of transmitting information. Replace ‘a carriage service’ with ‘the internet’ and you’d cover much (albeit not all) of the intention there.

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No.

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    • Geobloke@aussie.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Carriage service is pretty standard these days. Apparently it came about when people would transfer small amounts of money into other people’s accounts with threatening messages attached to the transfer

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  • freedickpics@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The whole law is one knee-jerk shitheap, brought on by a media and population demanding the government do ‘something’

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    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There’s precisely one thing in this law that might have actually prevented the massacre and it’s the more rigourous background checks.

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Tbh i think it’s one of those laws they can throw to get you on something when they have nothing else.

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• PDFuego@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  state laws will be updated to limit firearms owners to four guns for recreational use and 10 guns for commercial and farming use

  The country’s gun lobby has opposed the plan, describing it as “the fight of our lives.”

  🙄

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    If you can’t survive without four guns, I have to ask…

    What the hell is wrong with you?

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    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You can survive without lots of things people want.

      You can survive with one outfit, without ever going camping (harms the environment after all), without soft drink or fast food, without recreational drugs, without a video games or books.

      That’s poor framing. The question is does the activity someone wants to engage in (and the tools involved) represent an unfair burden or risk to others in society. Now we can have that conversation about firearms in general but this limit is arbitrary and unsupported by evidence. It’s entirely vibes based.

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    • Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      An 12gauge over and under for bird hunting

      A 22 for small game

      A 308 for larger game

      A 338 for long distance targets and buffalo’s

      A 4570 as a backup if you miss with the 338 and they’re not happy about it

      A 410 shotgun for snakes

      That’s what I personally own. Different tools for different jobs.

      This 4 gun limit is a joke

      I also own a 1941 303 all matching serial numbers as a collectors item.

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    • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      4 ‽

      How about 1 revolver and 1 hunting rifle/shotgun?

      Enough for anyone. Anywhere.

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    • InevitableWaffles@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Would you deny someone that ability to have more than 4 pairs of shoes? They need to be able to accessories. /s

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• No1@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  OK, if I don’t have a gun, and don’t want a gun, how will this hurt me?

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You’ll still whinge and complain, especially if you’re not an Australian

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  • TheHolm@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You will be arrested for accessing material on the manufacture to make a gun. Next time you shop in Burnings be careful. As an example if you are get a drill bit suitable for metal - you are criminal.

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