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Tradition is just bullying by dead people

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨LazyGit@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    In a modern society, generation by generation, we choose what tradition is acceptable to keep and what is not. We’ve abandoned many more traditions than we have kept, so they aren’t inherently sacred and unquestionable.

    Anyone who wants to keep a tradition that causes harm is just malicious.

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  • irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Image.

    There’s no original thoughts left

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    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This Showerthought has become a tradition!

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      • scottrepreneur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Rip Alakazing

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    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I also think the older one (peer pressure) is more apt than “bullying.”

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    • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      never was

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    • Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You mean, this is traditional?

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  • NostraDavid@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tradition is innovation that survived long enough to stop being questioned.

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    Tradition is a solution that forgot the problem it solved.

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    • Xechon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I get the sentiment, though doesn’t it seem unfair to assume all tradition has such grounding? Plus, disrespect is the mechanism for weeding out harmful or redundant traditions. It’s fine.

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  • cibbecker@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tradition is brainwashing younger people they should keep doing what you did even after you’re gone.

    Not that every tradition is bad, or that everything should be done differently. Humans learn from the previous generations, that’s a fundamental of our existence. But the way some traditions are imposed onto the young despite all issues with them sucks. It’s about balance and not being dogmatic, I guess.

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Speaking of brainwashing, its just do easy for a parent to abuse their position of power and like manipulate their children however they want.

      Like if you got born into a crime family, you would have no choice but to live your childhood/teen years doing their bidding…

      You could be born into a family of racists, a family of terrorists (think: Bin Laden), or a morally corrupt rich family (like: every politician ever)

      Brainwashing is even more effective when you show affection 50% of the time.

      But I think I just have a better “sus meter” than my mom anticipated, I detect her her bullshit all the time. Mom thinks I’m a gullible little servant that will obey her for the rest of her life. I guess being birthed by a manipulator naturally give you that BS Detector DNA?

      But my brain is so weird… I get weirdly attached to my… emotionally abusive mother… I think I might have a bit of stockholm syndrome… I think I just really fanticise about the idea of family that I always desired…

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      • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        yes, most people have mommy/daddy issues. they say the first step towards true personal growth is identifying/dealing with those issues

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  • Shanmugha@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Depends on the tradition and insight of those who are alive Tradition as in “we do this, because our ancestors did” is insanity, no questions there

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    • Strive7307@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      „we do this, because our ancestors did and because it‘s fun/ brings us joy“ is a completely valid reason however :)

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      • Shanmugha@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, “because fun” beats everything else :)

        Just today I got yet another insight about my own life along the lines of “it doesn’t matter that much what I do, but rather how and why, and with what level of awareness”

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I feel this way about religion.

    It is literally being bullied by a supernatural creature that doesn’t even exist. Do X, do not do Y, else the entire wrath of the Almighty will be upon you.

    And at the same time the Almighty can do absolutely anything they want - mass murder people, sleep with anyone, get everyone drunk, tell father to kill the son - because what, are you gonna defy or question someone who else destroys you and tarnishes your soul for the rest of eternity?

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  • YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Saw this on Reddit years ago. Looks like posting it has become something of a tradition!

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  • bitcrafter@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I will eat lasagna every year for Christmas dinner until I am in the grave, and I am perfectly fine with the fact that I was bullied into this by all the Italian ancestors who came before me because lasagna is delicious.

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    • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      what sauce did italians use before tomatoes were brought over from the New World?

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      • klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Given how they eat now, probably olive oil mixed with herbs. Hell they still eat that, and it’s delicious tbh

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      • bitcrafter@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The blood of our enemies.

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  • gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s the living people who carry on traditions

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  • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tradition is loving your ancestors’ wisdom.

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    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      OP needs to see Fiddler on the Roof, multiple times.

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      • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Even Tevye didn’t know why they kept up their traditions.

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  • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tradition is the experiments that worked.

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Tradition is the thing we convince ourselves to keep doing because it was done before.

      The things that worked are the things we keep doing without calling it a tradition.

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    • Delta_V@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      . . . in their time and place, but the universe is ever changing.

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    • U7826391786239@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      read shirley jackson’s “the lottery” and tell me a) how was their tradition an “experiment”; and b) how did it “work”?

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      • NostraDavid@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m not comparing actual tradition (setting up the Christmas tree to celebrate the passing of the shortest night) with a made up story.

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      • AmidFuror@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Shirley Jackson didn't write any stories about towns where nothing happens. Survival of the fittest twist.

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  • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Were you browsing 9gag in the shower or what?

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  • bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Not even original

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  • Vengefu1Tuna@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I like this one. It’s an amusing way to think about it.

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  • Engywuck@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tradition is something silly. Endlessly redoing the same things at a fixed time just because…

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  • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Beau of the Fifth Column introduced me to this quote, not sure if he started it.

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      what went with him? Is he in rehab or something?

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      • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Something with mental health workload I believe. His wife is running the channel now which is okay but its different. I really hope he’s doing well but understandable that any youtuber could get burned out, especially with the subject matter he was covering.

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  • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Anything done more than once is tradition.

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