‘ELITE’: The Palantir App ICE Uses to Find Neighborhoods to Raid

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• Dubiousx99@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Seems like Doge might have been setup to facilitate this. They are cross referencing data from the HHS database. Big Brother.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The actual point of DOGE was to just backdoor and/or datadump as many government databases as possible and give them to Palantir. That’s it. That was the entire point. Everything else was simply theatrics.

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    • Jumbie@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also firing all the agencies and agents investigating him.

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    • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And to just stoke Elon’s ego in letting him have his own fake agency and show people that they can fuck with the economy and suffer jo consequences whatsoever.

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• jpreston2005@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  oh awesome, Palantir the same company profiting off the genocide in Gaza

  CEO Alex Karp has been a vocal supporter of Israel. In November 2023, he stated, “I am proud that we are supporting Israel in every way we can.”

  After October 2023, Palantir has provided Israel with multiple AI-powered data analytics tools for military and intelligence purposes.

  In January 2024, Palantir held its board meeting in Israel and entered into a “strategic partnership” with Israel’s Ministry of Defense to help Israel’s “war effort.”

  In October 2024, Norway’s largest asset manager, Storebrand, divested its Palantir shares, worth $24 million, due to concerns that Palantir’s work for Israel might implicate Storebrand in violations of international humanitarian law and human rights.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The Palantir tools were used to analyze the data trove that Microsoft was hosting for Israel. It contained all of the cellular data (metadata and call recording/MMS contents/data traffic) for the entirety of Palestine.

    That tool’s detection of ‘terrorists’ was used to justify a massive portion of the air strikes on Palestine. Their beta test resulted in a genocide.

    Palantir is complicit in war crimes and genocide, never forget that.

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    • Sineljora@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Microslop is still hosting for Israel, even more than before. Don’t believe Brad Smiths recent lies about their data centers being healthy for communities either.

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  • fort_burp@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The overwhelming majority of Somalis who live in the Minneapolis and St. Paul area are U.S. citizens, PBS reported.

    And going after Somalis while Israel is trying to get a foothold in Somalia is sus af

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    • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What the hell does Israel want in Somalia? I never heard that before.

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  • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah, it’s wild how Palestine has become the global laboratory for surveillance and state violence tech and tactics.

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• sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Palantir is literally Evil Corp.

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Some more reporting by GamersNexus:
    youtu.be/5Idb_D4Tdu8

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  • AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    SadTech reporting in.

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Fucking hate how these shitheads take words from Tolkien’s works and bastardise them. Palantir, Anduril.

  What’s next, a social credit system named “Silmaril”? An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called “Rivendell”?

  Just fucking stop.

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  • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tolkein’s idyllic structure for a society, the shire, is frequently analyzed through a lens of “is this anarchism?” and it’s not all that uncommon to conclude “yes”

    all these fuckers read Tolkien and adopted the imagery of the villains. none of them realize that the message is that all the top level people are addicted to power. the people who actually get shit done, the hobbits, they are tempted by power because it’s tempting, but ultimately value singing songs, making tea, and eating potatoes too much to want to possess the ultimate power in the universe. almost everyone who comes into contact with the one ring wants to possess it forever. Bilbo’s first desire for it is to use it to help him escape a dangerous situation. Frodo is indifferent to it at first. Sam immediately hates it, feels guilt for letting Frodo carry it alone, and commits himself to destroying it.

    You’re not supposed to read Tolkien and implement fascism. you’re supposed to read Tolkien and learn to value pacifism

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I mean… Palantir showed Denethor false images of doom and despair fed by Sauron. It drove him to become a completely mad tyrant.

    I think Palantir is a very apt name. They just don’t realise why.

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    • fort_burp@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They just don’t realise why.

      Yup. Just how Sauron was able to see via the Palantiri, the Swiss army have concluded that they can’t rule out US intelligence accessing data through Palantir systems, despite reassurances.

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  • alberttcone@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I think that’s a Thiel thing. Tolkein was was one of his obsessions growing up. It doesn’t surprise me that he saw a plot device intended to be a warning as a really cool idea…

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    • PolarKraken@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      After listening to some of the Behind the Bastards on Thiel’s Antichrist obsession, his names for things are more understandable. Not by being sensible, by his demonstrated tendency to read things and take interpretations from them that make no sense to anyone else.

      So yeah I’m sure he’s got some nutso bananas reinterpretation of what a Palantir is, etc.

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  • Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Palantir should be trialed for crimes against humanity and literature

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tolkien is rolling in his grave.

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  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    An organisation that harvests the organs of homeless called “Rivendell”?

    Surely “Mordor” would be a better choice?

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• HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Meanwhile my dad: you should really invest in this company Palantir…

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  • NChiwana76@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My brother is a total Palintir supporter because he sees his stocks rising. I tell him he’s supporting evil but he says their CEO is a Democrat and has nothing to do with Thiel🙄. Like most Americans he’s ok with evil if it pays well.

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    • NotSteve_@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The CEO is insane. He apparently self-describes himself as a socialist but is the highest paid CEO on earth and fantasises about dumping cyanide-laced urine on people protesting state-backed brutality

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  • blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    8 years ago: buy Hugo Boss and Mercedes

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    • arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you did and held for say 30-40 years you would have an amazing return on investment.

      Funny how a government can fail, but the corporations keep going

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• spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Let’s give credit were credit is due - ICE is only a tool. The GOP has complete ownership of ICE’s terrorist actions and applauds what is being done.

  Republicans could reign in ICE in a couple of days if they didn’t approve of their tactics.

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  • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is also what the DNC wants. Vote socialist.

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• Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Every palantir executive and voting shareholder needs to be prosecuted and have their assets siezed to pay for the damage they’ve done to American democracy and Palestine

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  • Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    • to literature

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    • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What do you mean!

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The same government officials paying to use it are probably the people mainly invested in it.

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• Luxyr@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Is it possible that people could use flock or palantir stuff to track and collect info on ice agents? Their security is shit, yeah?

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  • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Flock’s security is shit.

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  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Flock most certainly, I have no information on the palantir app.

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  • silence7@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ICE regularly uses fake license plates. You can do a bit, in that they dont swap constantly, but its not going to be as good as the tracking of private citizens

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• BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  HOW is a Private Company like PALANTIR able to Get such SENSITIVE information Though?

  -People who Get Upset at Privacy because they have Nothing To Hide TM!

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  • NChiwana76@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They are DOD employees now with clearance.

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    • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Prior to that they were able to function just fine by using non-classified data brokers which have access to every bit of data that can be extracted from every smart phone that has a single app that’s compromised by their spyware.

      Having access to even greater surveillance data (like the data that is gathered at TITANPOINTE and other oversea cable collection locations) just lets whoever is in charge more accurately target their political opponents.

      Like Snowden said in citizenfour, the collection capabilities of the NSA create a situation which would allow ‘turnkey totalitarianism’. Well, they’ve turned the key.

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah pretty much, they’re basically, at their core, private contractors, whose nearly sole customer is governments.

      Governments outsourced the management and operations of the Torment Nexus, not because they were forced to or didn’t want or didn’t have the resources…

      … They were just too incompotent to do it themselves.

      So… yeah, now they’re now functionally part of the government, of multiple governments actually.

      This is how we … get to? Or have arrived at? … just actual cyberpunk dystopia, where the Corps just are, in every meaningful way, on top.

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• Lor@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We cannot forget that DOGE has also stolen data from agencies. Most worrisome being the IRS who has records of all of your interest paying accounts and investments. One only need to use your imagination a little to what can happen. It is gonna be BAD.

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• bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  So how do we poison the dataset?

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  • silence7@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I suspect they’re depending on data brokers who collect name and location from 3rd party apps. Set up fakes of a bunch of their metrics sending data, and you can fill it with junk

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• mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If we don’t build these apps then someone far worse probably will. Therefore it’s better if we make the apps that allow untrained monkeys to find and execute people on US soil because at least we’ll do it right… ya know?

  Palantir 2026… probably.

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Lol, Palantir doesn’t care remotely enough to make an excuse like that. They’re openly proud of what they do.

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    • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      …literally in the name

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• AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That whole “look how quirky and cool Alex Karp is” pr nonsense was BS from the start.

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• E_coli42@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There should be some sort of halal version of popular ETFs that get rid of certain universally excepted evil companies. I just invest in QQQM, VTI, VOO, etc and forget, but I have a friend who buys stocks weighted by NASDAQ except for Palantir manually. Too much of a headache for me lol.

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  • logi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There are screened index funds like this www.justetf.com/en/etf-profile.html?isin=IE00BFNM…

    Although we’ve now moved a good chunk to small capitalization and non-US to have less exposure to the coming tech bust.

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    • E_coli42@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Is that ETF (SNAW) you linked your default buy? I am relatively young and new to investing. I have some QQQM but wanted to move to something more ethical (ESG) and more diversified. Probably one of the ESG S&P 500 trackers like XVV, EFIV, RSPE.

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  • vane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There is S&P 500 Shariah or if you’re christian there is S&P 500 Christian Values

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    • E_coli42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m actually Sikh, but I would assume that Muslims, Christians, and Atheists alike, also share basic human values like don’t give money to companies that use child labor, sell weapons to terrorits, encourage dangerous addictions, etc. I don’t really care if the ETF is targeted towards a specific religion or not. My main gripe would be seeing their stock exclusion list for haram stocks are based on generic human values and not banning companies that sell pork for example.

      I did a bit of research online and think EVIF might be what I’m looking for.

      Maybe using the word Halal and Haram was confusing since those are Arab words so mostly used by Muslims and Christians.

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• samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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• TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  So who can be held responsible for when the app fucks up ?

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Article starts with “Palantir…” 'nuf sa(i)d.

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• ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Would shit like incogni or delete me help in countering this somewhat?

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  • silence7@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    No idea what level of defense is actually necessary; not having a phone, or any bills or official correspondence sent in your name to your home will suffice, but I don’t know what it takes which is less than that

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    • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      First of all getting rid of the phone and internet will not remove what is already there. If I died right now all the data is still going to be there and not erased on account of me being dead.

      I have been easing into reducing my online signature as much as possible over the past few years. It is far from perfect, I know. That is also the stuff going forward and does not handle what is already past.

      Like I still watch videos on YouTube mostly, and I still have a compromised Gmail account (compromised in that no matter what I do someone or someones have been using it to sign up for shit that clearly isn’t mine). And while I no longer use my real for social media, and my last known usage of Facebook was from last summer (and I greatly diminished what I was doing over a few years at that point). None of this removes what data brokers already have.

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