Ex-Linus Tech Tips employee alleges mistreatment and poor conditions: “no one gets a break” - Dexerto

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t see how this surprises anyone. As soon as the handbook was leaked I just knew it was a shit place. Why? Cause I work at a shit place and they do the same shit. Shitty people rip shitty policies and implement them shittily. Linus doesn’t care, he wants profit.

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  • traveler@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I honestly don’t think he does it on purpose, I honestly think he’s just way over his head for years now, which is why he hired a new CEO and scaled back his position. I mean, who remember a few years ago when he talked about retiring YouTube?

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So why can’t employees talk about pay? Thats just an accidental whoopsie? According to the handbook they have to demonetize their channels if they have youtube channels. Guess thats just another accident? No, its malicious squashing of could-be competition while simulteanously putting their positions on a pedestal. Its classic capitalist tactics.

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    • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Abusers often don’t know they are being an abuser.

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  • ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So much truth. Look at the guy. How is front facing persona is. You know it’s some egomaniac that’s just like fuck you I need more.

    It’s funny because publicly, he’s been disapproving of her in photos, chat. Like the look he’s giving her here, urgh.

    It honestly sounds like my last job. Unprofessionalism in all its finest with nothing but favouritism, big egos and zero agency or responsibility given. All with endless work in tow. Yup. Good times 🙂🔫

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  • million@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What handbook?

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• TBi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I replied this in another thread. Which was downvoted…

  It really feels like the pitchforks are out. People want blood and don’t care if the allegations are true or not.

  Probably mistakes were made, hopefully just innocent mistakes or bad communication. But it really feels like people don’t care. They see LTT doing well and want to tear them down, even if bringing LTT down will be bad for everyone.

  I’ve had a disgruntled employee before. Their version of events was very different to how the rest of the team saw it. If something innocent could have been taken badly it was. I’m not saying that happened here. But let’s investigate and presume innocence.

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  • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Hellsadvocate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “this is normal workplace stuff tho right gais? We all do this jeez.”

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  • totallynotarobot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When was the last time you accidentally told someone at work to calm their tits and twerk for you, and in what psychotic universe is that innocent

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    • TerribleTuna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Okay, I wanna say that you’re right. It’s never an okay and cool thing to say to an employee that is working for you. However, let me give you some of my perspective, because I can easily see how stuff like this can happen by accident or “innocently”.

      I’m socially retarded, I might even have a tad bit of autism. Social ques for me are just hard and sometimes takes a while for me to figure out. It’s like a science at times.

      So I think “Calm your tits” is an expression used for basically “Calm down”, “Don’t get too excited” or “Take it easy”. And I can easily see two close friends taking this expression a step further and adding “Calm your tits and twerk for me!” as a fun way to say “Don’t get too exited but get exited”

      Now I could easily see a younger me stumbling upon two dudes having this social interaction and hearing this new fun expression and wanting to try it out myself without thinking of how and to who I’m saying it to. So yeah, I could see shit like this happen by accident and without malicious intent.

      I’m a grown up. I realize that the things I say and how I say it have consequences. The things I say to my friends might not always translate well into a work environment social setting.

      So could this happen? Yes (at least I think so) Should this happen? No.

      If you’re a businessowner you have (for lack of a better word) “power” over your employees and you can’t go around using expressions like these in a professional setting.

      Sorry for the long reply, I agree with you, just wanted to add some perspective! Have a good day! <3

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    • bob_wiley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • stratoscaster@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bro that woman is getting death threats I kinda doubt she’d be lying just to be vindictive

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    • agent_flounder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Knowing what women go through silently and how much more they go though when they try to speak up… Yeah.

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  • SilentStorms@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think they made the correct call to hire a third-party to investigate this. A lot of things that are happening is LMG not treating themselves like a real company, rather a group of friends with a YouTube channel.

    There’s been a lot of incompetence and mistakes that happened because of the company’s grindset, but they’re not evil. They made some serious fuck-ups, and need to take major action to remedy them. I feel like a lot of people don’t want to see these issues fixed, they just want to pull out the pitchforks.

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    • shottymcb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Tech news is a saturated field. It’s no great loss if this sack of dicks gets thrown in the river.

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  • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You lost me when you claimed that a low quality youtube channel going down would be somehow bad for me.

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  • Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Doesn’t matter about the downvotes. These are the type of people who were out frothing at the mouth back when Reddit detective “found” the Boston bomber (they didn’t actually and them jumping to conclusions made the situation more shit)

    The allegations are appalling, but that’s all they are, allegations.

    LMG definitely needs to come out with a statement about her claims but until then it might be worth reminding yourself that you don’t know the full story.

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  • _danny@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I do think a healthy amount of scepticism is healthy here. Her accusations are worded very carefully to not directly target anyone in particular and there is no proof of her accusations nor any way for LMG to dispute her claims because of how they are worded. Not to even mention the timing. It’s all a little too convenient.

    That said, scepticism doesn’t mean blind faith in LMG, and it doesn’t mean tearing down the accuser. The new CEO getting an independent investigation is the best thing possible and we should hold our judgement until the result of that investigation.

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    • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not to even mention the timing. It’s all a little too convenient.

      The “timing” is “while everybody is discussing then issues within LTT”. That’s a completely reasonable time for an ex-employee to contribute their views.

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    • Xavier@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In that case, what would you consider to be a suitable “timing” then?

      Is it just after a victim (children/teenagers/men/women/anyone) was verbally/physically assaulted? Within an hour? Within 24/48/72 hours? A week? A month? A year?

      When is the appropriate inconvenient (in contrast to your “too convenient”) time for you?

      Whether the victim feels safe or not, ready or not, supported or not, free of any retaliation or not, when is it too late for a victim to speak out or tell their story? Is 2 years already too much? How about 5 years, 10 years or 20 years?

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  • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “I got downvoted for my shitty opinion before, but I’m incapable of introspection, so I’m just going to keep saying my shitty opinions over and over again until someone tells me I’m right”

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    • TDCN@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is not really constructive information. You are being childish here. If you have something meaningful to add to the conversation just say it instead of being mocking.

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  • agent_flounder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think when a company like this egregiously breaches our trust, damages other entities, and then stubbornly doubles down on the same, it is not only understandable but entirely rational to be far less willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when new allegations arise.

    But as always I, and hopefully everyone here, will update their point of view as new evidence arises.

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  • traveler@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d honestly love an UI for Lemmy that hides the downvotes. Fuck that shit.

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• Touching_Grass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How do we know the employee wasn’t toxic?

  Has any other employees come forward. I hate exploitive work places but I’m skeptical about these public mud flinging things now. Its like there’s a script they all use when let go.

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Other employees have, the employee handbook was leaked, and before GN did his video that started all this he also did a video where he interviewed LMG employees.

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    • dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      GN did not interview LMG employees.

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  • agent_flounder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nobody knows anything but the people directly involved.

    However the allegations sound too much like what other women deal with in shitty, toxic techbro spaces, and it sounds too much like the kind of corporate culture that would put out bullshit “test” numbers, wave off conflicts of interest, and callously torpedo a startup to chase dollars and ego.

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  • CanadianNomad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think if you want to cut thru it all, take her direct quotes, the actual events as factual occurrences and draw your conclusions. Then all the colour, like the quote you posted, or her feelings on how she was treated with a grain of salt as perhaps it was just really a bad fit. And someone with a different mindset might not have felt as hurt or attacked. But that is more emotional and some of that is still on the person feeling it (and how strongly).

      It 100% sounds like the dynamic was off and Linus was too stupid to see it. Which honestly tracks. Not saying he’s also not a POS (just definitely dumb).

      With all that said, the few quotes she posted from them and the events she laid out definitely wreaked of garage startup nonsense. Which is always comical when paired with the air of professionalism when they try to spin the event during crisis mode (as evidence by their absurd code of conduct).

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    • Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Definitely two sides to the story so the best approach is not to take everything at face value and pre-judge the situation. People should remember how reddit detectives “found” the Boston bomber and how that all turned out for everyone.

      LMG needs to tell their side of the story and until then I’ll keep the guillotine at home

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No its sexism, look at the downvotes. They decide.

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  • Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can’t ask that stuff on here mate, this thread is for shitting on Linus and taking Madisons words at face value. I’m not about to lick LMG’s asshole, but you’d think if this were an endemic culture issue that there would be several reports from previous employees (especially if the behavior is as abhorrent as she alleges)

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m looking at the guy getting 100 downvotes for having an opinion. :)

      If it’s one topic you can’t say anything about here on Lemmy it’s this one.

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    • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      but you’d think if this were an endemic culture issue that there would be several reports from previous employees

      Someone has to be the first person to report something.

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• Llamajockey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That article was a pain to read with the they/them pronouns I’m all for equality for all but damn, grandmas has rules for a reason

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  • ClaireDeLuna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Never too late to learn how to read 🤷‍♀️

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  • lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It bothered me but only because they used it interchangeably with her. I don’t think they were using it indirectly like another commenter suggested since they were talking about a specific person who was identified in other parts of the article as her. It’s lazy writing and sounds bad to just randomly switch back and forth like that, and idk if this person actually goes by they or her but it’s disrespectful to keep saying her if they actually go by they. Anyhow that’s my 2 cents, it bothered me too but because they were being really lazy about the writing and/or rude depending on the actual circumstances.

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