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Microsoft may soon allow IT admins to uninstall Copilot

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-may-soon-allow-it-admins-to-uninstall-copilot-on-managed-devices/

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    May allow The benevolence! Your own computer can do whatever you want it to… if MS agrees to it.

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    • macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Your computer, their software.

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      • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Hardware alone is not a working computer. If you control the software running on your computer then that software is yours (like it’s your book on your bookshelf even though another owns the copyright to it). If someone else controls yours computer then that erodes your ownership of the computer.

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      • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That you should have the option to run locally without calling back to home base without a special pass from MS.

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    • kevin2107@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      damn Microsoft is asking for lindom

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Allow”

    Fuck you, Microsoft. You and Apple have lost millions of users to Linux, and I’m here for it.

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    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You are not an IT Admin, you are not spending tens of millions annually, and thus Microsoft doesn’t give a shit about you. They literally would not piss on you if you were on fire.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s not really the point though. I’m not even talking about end users. Government agencies, corporate backend services, customer service agencies and more are all abandoning Windows for Linux partially because Win11 is a horrible product, but also because the requirements just keep growing which is stupid.

        There response to this is the above, which they were STAUNCHLY opposed to previously because they need to try and force AI down users throats to justify the money they have pissed away on it. They’re shoehorning Copilot bullshit into every product line they have now, and it’s WILDLY unpopular and unnecessary. If this is the best they can do to address it, they’ll continue to hemorrhage users.

        When more state agencies in the US start switching, they’ll release some “Windows Lite” bullshit, but it will too late because the commitments needed for these organizations to bother switching is massive. They’ll be losing licenses for an entire generation of Windows at the very least.

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      • sepi@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes we already know. No need to sell it to us more. We love it.

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      • Damage@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I mean, they already lost the war to Linux on infrastructure, those are billions they never made. It’s not unlikely for them to lose the desktop as well.

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  • aliser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FYI: as a user, you are already allowed to uninstall Windows and switch to Linux

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  • Dogiedog64@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    There’s an easier way. Switch to Linux. It’s good now, and only going to get better with more adoption.

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    • titanicx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Difficult for most businesses.

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      • bytesonbike@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        People don’t realize how difficult it is.

        Not only do you have to do a lot of feature replacement (getting off of teams and using zulip and jitsi. Getting off of outlook and using Zimbra. Using next cloud over whatever the hell Microsoft’s version is)…

        You also have to deal with all the Microsoft chucklefuck IT people who never touched a command line before. The push back I had in previous companies is lazy IT folks who don’t want to learn anything their Microsoft certification didn’t teach them.

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      • naticus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yep. Already did at home and I still need Windows at work. I may get to that point eventually but not there yet myself. When it’s time for a hardware refresh for me, I think I’ll push for Linux and see if I can work on ways to roll it out elsewhere too. I really need to find a way to manage it in a similar way to Group Policy, but haven’t looked into it too much yet.

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    • Atropos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would love to, but unfortunately our work requires windows due to the software packages we use. And no, I really don’t want to run a virtual machine for CAD.

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  • OshagHennessey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    may

    admins

    Fuck Microsoft

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  • Eternal192@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh they’ll “allow” it, how’s this go fuck yourself and keep your shitty AI crap to yourself since you fucking love it so much.

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  • Gsus4@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “allow”

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    • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Feels like accident forgiveness from insurance, right

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  • goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • statelesz@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You know what Microsoft doesn’t have to allow you? Install Linux on your own device!

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There have been devices that forbid disabling SecureBoot or enrolling your own keys, and only boot loaders that microsoft signed are allowed to boot.

      Further, I’ve seen systems that have a setting to not allow the non-microsoft stuff to boot, even if signed by the usual secureboot authority. So there may be a device out there hard set to only allow microsoft software to boot.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    IT admins should already know how to do it without Macroslop‘s permission.

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    • MIDItheKID@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      IT admin here, we certainly do know how to do it, and already have. It’s an appx package, and it’s really not difficult to remove.

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  • LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Let us remove Microslop

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    • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But you can!

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  • RalfWausE@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My computer, my rules… and if I want a piece of software out it will move out.

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    • coolmojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It used to be “My Computer”, now it is “This PC”.

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      • RalfWausE@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh… right…

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  • Auster@thebrainbin.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Reading the article, it's so many conditions to be uninstallable I fear even Bill Gates himself couldn't.

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  • itisileclerk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anyway, “Copilot” in my native language is “The bastard”.

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Business had spoken, consumers have spoken. No one wants AI right now. Large companies trying to out compete each other on LLM is stupid. Time for the bubble to pop before more people get hurt.

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    • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No one wants AI right now.

      I don’t know why anyone would ever want “AI” on their workstation let alone in a production environment. Its like a calculator that works 94% of the time, useless and distracting. Or like a bowl of candy where only one is poison, why would you want that?

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  • badbytes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So every normal logged in user then?

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  • nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t understand the universe in which this is not an option. in an Enterprise scenario, you are being very specific about who you share your data with. That’s why there’s a market for self-hosted AI, and it’s why a lot of companies will silo their data. if this thing was on all the time just sending your computer shit to Microsoft, there’s no fucking way it would have any use in a corporate setting.

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  • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ?

    In the Enterprise editions of Windows, you can already uninstall it. Maybe not via group policy, but you can just find it in the Apps > Installed Apps list and right click to uninstall it.

    The Enterprise LTSC IoT version of Windows doesn’t even come with Copilot, nor have any updates for it thus far installed it on any of the systems I administer, either.

    What’s new here is apparently being able to trigger this via group policy, but for anyone in the here and now you can already disable Copilot via group policy as well, even on your local system.

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    • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I'm running Pro, and I don't see it as an installed app. Neither do I have it available as an app to run; the little copilot icon on the start menu just opens a web page.

      Which means I must have already uninstalled it. Which means you should be able to uninstall it from Pro versions as well.

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  • hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I see this has a nature healing moment. We are seeing a big technology company letting people remove AI from something not adding it in.

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  • namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I thought they renamed their entire product line to “Copilot” by now, didn’t they?

    Uninstalling it at this point would leave absolutely nothing left!

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  • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You always could disable it completely thus far

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    • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can request to disable it.

      FTFY

      There is always the possibility it is there. Watching. Waiting.

      You can’t trust big windows

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      • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I know what you mean… but what I said is true. I am a multi-decade network admin… grey beard… ya know… old fart. I’ve seen all this crap since windows 3.1. You can always disable anything in Windows, if you understand how the OS works.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can uninstall Copilot yourself with O&O ShutUp.

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  • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Doesn’t really sound like an admin to me

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