My PS1 died today

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Worx@lemmynsfw.com⁩ to ⁨patientgamers@sh.itjust.works⁩

I wanted to try out Dune for the first time and it just didn’t power on. I am not ok. I took a look inside and cleaned it, but there’s no obvious loose connections. Today is a sad day for me

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entwine@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Maybe dead capacitors? If you don’t have a multimeter and soldering iron, this is a good excuse to get/learn those things!

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I do have both of those things but I don’t feel I have the expertise. Maybe I’ll give it a go in a few days.
  
  It makes a high-pitched whine when plugged in, I also wondered if that could be a capacitor making the noise. Or maybe the coil right near the incoming power supply, I could imagine that making such a notice as well
  
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  - yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    but I dont feel I have the expertise.
    
    Probably true, but everyone starts out like that, and its already broke. Either you fix it and youre a hero, or it stays broke and whatever
    
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  - AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Definitely try replacing the capacitors. They just don’t live that long.
    
    wiki.console5.com/wiki/PlayStation
    
    If you don’t have a lot of expertise with soldering, here’s a few basic tips:
    
    Don’t set the iron too hot, because if you burn the wires it’s pretty much gg. Use lots of flux. To remove the old caps, just cut them off, they are cheap and replaceable.
    
    Good luck!
    
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Auster@thebrainbin.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Respect for the soldier fallen after so long in combat 🫡

Also if you still want to play the game and wouldn't mind doing so on another device, iirc the PS2 can run natively PS1 games, any of the PS3 models can for sure (it's different from the PS2 compatibility from the PS3), you can convert the game to run on the PSP and/or Vita, and there are emulators that have their own solutions to not need BIOS files.

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ll have to check about the backwards compatibility, I’m sure a newer device would be easier to buy. I did have a PS2 once but I must have sold it… Maybe it went towards a Wii?
  
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  - Auster@thebrainbin.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Rereading, one part of what I said wasn't clear: Emulators themselves you should be able to find for PC and phones. And if on PC, you should be able to play directly from the disc drive.
    
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  - GrindingGears@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I’ve got a $50 game boy wanna be clone that I bought on Amazon on my bedside table, thing runs PS1 games smoothly. It ain’t quite the same obviously, but itnjust about scratches the same itch (plus it’s portable, I’ve enjoyed playing it on the train to and from work for example).
    
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- smeg@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Ooo didn’t know the ps3 could run ps1 games
  
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  - Auster@thebrainbin.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Finished Parasite Eve that way. The final challenge without save states was... interesting.
    
    Just worth noting Sony's PS1 emulator is historically unstable with certain games. FFV, for example, if you play the black label release, the save screen has some issue (maybe a memory leak?) that makes the whole game utterly freeze, and that the further you are into the game, the more unstable that screen gets (meanwhile in the PSP with a dump of the same disc, iirc the graphics in the save screen just get increasingly corrupted)
    
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DaMummy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Sounds like a great time to get into handheld emulation devices. PS1 will run on just about anything.

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Nah, it’s not the same. There’s something more visceral and real about playing with the original hardware and controller, for me anyway
  
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  - spartanatreyu@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Nah, it’s totes the same.
    
    Use a playstation controller on your emulator.
    
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Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
New mobos are like 20 bucks on ebay. Can you test the power module?

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ve got a multimeter but no experience with PS1 PCBs. When I’ve got some more time to dedicate to it, I’ll have a more thorough look I hope
  
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ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Check output voltages on the power supply with motherboard disconnected

If there’s anything weird there honestly I would just look into something like this . There are other versions iirc and you can find it cheaper too but basically a drop in psu replacement that uses modern components.

People are talking about recapping and fixing the power supply. It’s honestly not worth it on many of these older systems unless you’re a die hard that insists the hardware be 100% original. You’ll spend 30-50% of the cost of a replacement psu on a recap kit and that might not fix it (I am a big believer that recapping for no reason is a bad idea, especially on old pcbs like this that can easily delaminate). When you factor in potential extra time spent diagnosing and fixing the actual problem (bc it’s probably not recapping) plus the fact that the modern psu will last longer and deliver cleaner power, protecting the motherboard and allowing it to last longer as well, it’s a no brainer imo.

If the issue is on the motherboard then sorry. It’s usually fixable, but harder. This gen of console is an okay place to start learning if you ever wanted to (though what you describe with the whine sounds like psu issues imo). Previous 2 gens are a bit easier tho

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- lka1988@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  unless you’re a die hard that insists the hardware be 100% original.
  
  Ugh. I cannot stand purists. I will happily upgrade or modify things to keep the original “look”, but with modern functionality.
  
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  - ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Well it depends, there’s certainly an argument for like, the original CPU. I’m personally fine with emulation tbh, I do think someone maintaining the hardware is good for archival but I don’t have the space or funds for a bunch of the consoles I grew up with and either a CRT or expensive ass hdmi mods (which is another point of debate I suppose) but I like installing them for people and fixing old consoles is surprisingly lucrative, especially if you “Cadillac them up” with this stuff (assuming you can still find them cheap, which is incredibly difficult nowadays)
    
    But changing the psu? That’s a no brainer. Functionality remains identical and the modern designs are superior because they simply couldn’t have existed 30+ years ago. Components have improved a lot in terms of efficiency since then and as a result the modern designs are much smaller and generate far less heat and ripple (two biggest factors for longevity). Using the original power supply just means stressing the motherboard more which is counterproductive if your goal is keeping the machine running as long as possible. The exception would be if you got a bad modern replacement, like if you designed your own poorly or pulled the trigger on an unknown one and did 0 testing. Repsx (and the associated other systems under the same name) are well designed and made.
    
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mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Sorry for your loss.

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Lucky_777@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Emulate is in your future. Any modern computer, even the office computers anyware can play PS1 games.

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I ran an emulator on my laptop a few years ago but it’s just not the same. Thanks for the suggestion though! I do play some Pokémon Blue, Crystal and Emerald on an emulator from time to time
  
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gerowen@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Check fuses. It may just have a blown fuse in the power supply or on the motherboard. It also may just be an issue with the power button.

That said, I haven’t had a PS1 in years. Modern emulators like DuckStation can even play real discs but give you all sorts of benefits like upscaling, correction for polygon/texture warping, modern video outputs, etc. I regularly play my PS1 games, but I do so via an emulator on my Steam Deck.

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I prefer the real thing to an emulator, for PlayStation at least. I did try an emulator years ago but it’s not as good.
  
  Power supply fuse is good, but I didn’t disassemble far enough to see the motherboard. Hopefully it will be as easy as replacing that fuse! Thanks for the tip
  
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DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Was this your original childhood PS1?

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yep, we bought it second-hand probably more than 20 years ago. It had a good run
  
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  - hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You can get it repaired. There are lots of places online that can do it, and there are probably some repair shops near you that can too. It might be some small part that’s causing the whole issue, so it’s worth checking out.
    
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  - DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Damn I’m sorry to hear that
    
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olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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Aneb@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m knocking on wood for my Xbox One. 15 years and still going, gaming on it almost everyday besides for a few months every few years when I forget I like to play video games. Not to rub salt into the wound

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- Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The original Xbox? I think Those have a super capacitor that ends up leaking on the motherboard and should be replaced. I still didn’t get around to doing it on mine, but it’s on my mind that I need to do that.
  
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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I was actually thinking about buying an Xbox One for Halo Wars 2. Surely it’s not 15 years old yet?? I still think of it as the new Xbox since I own a 360…
  
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  - Aneb@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    OK I rounded the number up its actually 12 years old. But soon… If I’m lucky
    
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Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I guess you’ll need to play on a PS1 with video ports from this millennium.

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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ll have you know that PS1 outputs to a TV aerial! Even new TVs have that connection still!
  
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  - Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    At least in the UK modern tellies don’t support analogue TV signals!
    
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golden@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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Buffy@libretechni.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Sorry for your loss, I feel your pain. I recently discovered that my ps1, Atari 2600, and most importantly, my VideoNow were put in outside storage and not indoors. They’ve been exposed to the elements for literal years. Have yet to test them but things weren’t looking good.

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- bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  If its any hope, a lot of my stuff has survived insane temp changes in storage.
  
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  - Buffy@libretechni.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Fingers crossed, maybe I’ll make my first post here documenting their story and where they’ve been. The ps1 specifically though is one of those boxy ones with the big side vents, and it was sticking up out of the box caught right in a draft. I’ll be really surprised if I can get that one up and running, I can see the amount of dirt and moisture that settled in that vent.
    
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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Dune was on PS1? I assume you mean the OG RTS; I didn’t know it was on anything other than PC.

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- Starburn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Dune 2000 was on ps1.
  
  Dune 2 (the rts) was on the sega mega drive.
  
  If we’re talking consoles here.
  
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- Worx@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I think it’s an RTS, I haven’t had the chance to find out! :(
  
  I’ve packed it all away again until I have time and energy to try fixing it
  
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