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Snapdragon X1 Elite Linux laptop cancelled due to performance concerns — Linux PC maker says Qualcomm CPU is ‘less suitable for Linux than expected’

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Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨throws_lemy@lemmy.nz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/snapdragon-x1-elite-linux-laptop-cancelled-due-to-performance-concerns-linux-pc-maker-says-qualcomm-is-less-suitable-for-linux-than-expected

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  • DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can’t say I’m surprised given how much Qualcomm has prioritized Windows over Linux support for years now.

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    • dorumon@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As someone who used to have a Windows on Arm device. It was Hell. Basically anything that isn’t Lenovo or from Microsoft will mean it’ll eventually brick itself unless you steal drivers from other laptops. You also cannot reinstall the operating system because most of these nuggets have no device tree files in the firmware of the machine minus a few lenovo thinkpads. So that means when you try to reinstall windows there is a high likelihood your touchpad and keyboard and USB ports don’t work. I literally snapped the motherboard on my poor Samsung Galaxy Book Go in half over it suddenly bricking itself.

      Anyway if you want a decent windows on arm laptop buy lenovo and replace the storage. They have replacable nvmes usually. Also don’t get the 8 gigabytes of ram versions you literally will have programs just refuse or just force close themselves out of existence. You will literally have to debloat windows upto even removing Windows Defender and stopping most background services and disabling sysmain because it’s broken. You’d also have to disable certain things in Windows defender like memory protection if you want things to work right.

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      • pycorax@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Having worked with OpenGL ES on Android, it’s laughable how awful the drivers are. When GPUs from the same manufacturer have completely different behaviour, it really calls into question if they even care.

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    • orclev@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So it makes me wonder how much Valve is paying them for support since the upcoming Steam Frame uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 CPU and is also running Steam OS which is just a fork of Arch.

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    • potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Their drivers are SHIT, for wifi there is CNSS, ICNSS, then QMI, all do the same thing, but differently, but NO, it’s the same thing, but what does this do??? Is this really a different event or is this just rewritten in that event? Idk still, no one knows.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You guys think RISC will ever get there?

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    • lengau@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As someone who owns several RISC-V devices the primary thing preventing usable (low end) RISC-V laptops is the GPUs. Most RISC-V silicon has Imagination GPUs, and the current state of the drivers there is “proprietary drivers stuck on an old LTS kernel.”

      If someone makes an RVA23 compliant chip with open mainstreamable drivers and a BXS-4-64 GPU (or, better yet, somehow manages to license a GPU from Intel or AMD for it), that’ll be a cash cow.

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    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Other than battery optimizations pretty much all of the issues don’t exist on something like a Raspberry Pi which is RISC architecture (Broadcom chips). Sounds like Qualcomm just doesn’t have their shit together.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      isnt it inferior to qualcomm, the china doesnt exactly have access to the latest tech

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  • thejml@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    But I heard it was so fast!

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  • goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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