Bad people and bullies usually have justified reasons for why they are doing bad things, so instead of blaming them, maybe sympathize with them.

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Grimreaper@sopuli.xyz⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

Evil and bad people usually have actual reasons for why they are doing bad things. They aren’t doing bad things just to do them — there is usually something bad that happened in their past, etc

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MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
They may have excuses for their behaviour, but there is no justification for it.

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- loxdogs@lemmy.wtf ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  There is an explanation to why this happens, but no justification to what actually happened. This should not be tolerated.
  
  No sympathy will change a bully. It is possible only if a bully wants it himself. We can support his actual efforts to change, but nothing more.
  
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AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Just because you had a shitty life doesn’t mean you can make other people’s lives miserable.

I was bullied during most of my childhood and highschool years. Are you telling me that I should sympathise with my bullies because they had a rough time? I had an awful time thanks to them and I didn’t go making other people’s lives shitty. And I didn’t have their sympathy either.

For my bullies I don’t have sympathy. I don’t have hate either, because they don’t deserve anything from me.

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- Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  The wheel in the sky keeps on turning. I don't know where I'll be tomorrow...
  
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FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Seek help

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Kernal64@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Dude, seek help. Seriously.

For anyone coming into this thread looking to engage with the post, please look at the OP’s posting history. They’re clearly unwell and aren’t going to be swayed by reasoned debate. I keep seeing them post some wildly unhinged things that are, at the very least, straight up sociopathic. Either they’re the most committed troll I’ve ever seen, or they seriously need the care of professionals.

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- JandroDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  yeah, I’m looking through their post history after their most recent post, and either they really want attention or actually should take a break from being online. this one is talking about empathy but his latest one is filled with the r-slur lmao
  
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- jaennaet@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Even if they were trolling, anybody who’d spend that much time pretending to be a sociopath is fucked in the head
  
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- FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They have said they don’t care that their friend’s child is dying and could help but are choosing not to because they just don’t care
  
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  - Kernal64@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yeah, I saw that post. It’s not too far from there to being an active danger to others.
    
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qwestjest78@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
This is the type of bullshit bullies say to try to make themselves feel like they are not so bad. If you are a bully, or ever were a bully, you were scum. Accept it.

There is no justification for treating people horrible. If you are having bad things happen to you, it says more about your character if you are able to stop yourself from treating people the same way. Break the cycle.

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- maniclucky@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  At the risk of lumping myself in with bullies (I don’t leave the house enough to be one or the victim of one), there’s space between here and there. We can by sympathetic that a bully is being abused at home or some other form of unhappiness causing a behavior while also condemning it. Like stopping someone looking at their phone from walking into the street. Pull them out and also yell at them for being a moron.
  
  Some number can, with sympathy in addition to condemnation, change their behavior. The ones that don’t were given a chance and they can eat the consequences of being a cunt.
  
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jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I grew up in a family with a cycle of abuse.

I now understand why my dad was as angry and violent as he was. It honestly made me feel sorry for him and made it easier to forgive him. But in no way did it excuse or justify his actions. What he did was still wrong.

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- DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Honestly, my mom just go from loving, kind affectionate mother that seems very close to me, holding me close when we’re walking to make sure I’m safe and don’t get hit by a car, then suddenly goes 180 and become a narcissistic tiger matriarch, then it changes back again… Its so fucking confusing. Bipolar? Idk.
  
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squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
No. They might have reasons, but passing on violence and pain to others is never justified.

If it’s justified for one person to bully another because of trouble at home, then the other person is justified to hit back and so on. That’s how you get blood feuds. Dumb idea.

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- Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  It may not be justified but it's basic neuropsychology. Address the causes, address the behavior, address psychology.
  
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Engywuck@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Little bullies have spoiled 4 years of school for my son, which was 6-10 y/o back then. They’ve been beating and insulting him without any reason at all and stealing his stuff. Obviously he had to move to a different school. Bullies are still there, because poor guys…

Fuck them. I don’t care about their personal/familiar situation and no way I’m going to sympathize with them.

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DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
So you said “superman is a bad person” now you are saying “we should be sympathetic to bad people”? LOL

This is hillarious. What’s next? “people in a relationship who have age gap greater than 20 years should be adopted by evil superman to understand why he’s being a bad parent”? 🤣

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Zerlyna@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Hmmm. Maybe try this one in unpopular opinion?

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Spes@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Fuck you, now give me an upvote.

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GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
What if I bullied you back? Fuckin amateur hour…

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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Eh… I understand but I don’t condone it nor should they. What ever happened to free will? Everyone will just be X without any capacity for self reflection and change? That might be some other species, but certainly not humanity. It’s their moral duty to get their shit together to the best of their abilities, basically.

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- Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I don't see them saying that.
  
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Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You aren't wrong, and I will appreciate a society that moves from retribution to rehabilitation, in fact rather than rhetoric. As you can see from the comments, we have plenty of work to do, but it has to start with ourselves before the outer world can catch up.

Everyone can do their part by working on themselves, though.

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FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Having a reason for the behaviour doesn’t always excuse the behaviour. There are healthy ways to cope with past trauma so that you don’t harm other people. I agree that in most cases, figuring out the cause of the behaviour and addressing it is more productive than punishment. Still, the end goal should be changing the behaviour.

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