Looks like it was an Amazon AWS outage. Just geos to how how vulnerable the Internet is as it becomes ever more concentrated into the hands of the tech giants.
Huge internet outage live blog: Amazon, Disney+, Hulu, HBO Max and more experiencing issues
Submitted 6 months ago by otter@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/internet-outage-live-blog-october-20/
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BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As someone who works in tech I occasionally point out to people that if Jeff Bezos decided to go full supervillain he could hold the internet hostage. If you disabled AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud individually the cascading failures on the various systems would take weeks to fix, which we might not have with a supply chain collapse. Genuinely, I think there’s a real chance it could trigger the collapse of human civilization
skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The mindblowing part of it for me is that a company the size of Disney don’t seem to have the appetite to own and run their own servers.
These are the same people that managed to get two counties redistricted so that they could own their own city, and to this day literally buy the entire electorate by giving housing only to people who vote the way they’re told to.
Attacker94@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They’re being run by accountants, and one thing accountants hate is paying people to do a job, its always “far easier” just to pay a company for that.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 6 months ago
And criminals.
maniclucky@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s what they said.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Oh no, anyways
opens VLC to watch stuff I already downloaded a few days ago
parpol@programming.dev 6 months ago
Can’t even launch docker containers because auth.docker.io is down too.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 6 months ago
Such great infrastructure we’ve relied on!
thepompe@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
Good.
Chozo@fedia.io 6 months ago
Why?
chunes@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Maybe it will spur the internet to be more decentralized like it was supposed to be.
Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Why not?
Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
joejoe87577@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Postman is also down for me. Can’t sign in, or view workspaces locally.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Funny, my digitized collection movies and TV shows seems to be working just fine. :3
FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
How strange my pirate streaming site seems to be fine also
AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yarrrr
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 6 months ago
I need to download more shit!
dukemirage@lemmy.world 6 months ago
[deleted]Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
So, in the US, a standalone, bare-minimum with ads included Disney+ subscription costs $9.99. Oops, actually we’re raising it to $11.99 TOMORROW! So after a paying for a year of Dinsey’s cheapest plan, you’d have paid $144.
But maybe Disney isn’t your thing? Well. Netflix costs $7.99 for the ad plan, and $17.99 for the no ads plan. But do note, even on the ad supported plan, you STILL can’t watch everything.
Ad-supported, all mobile games and most movies and TV shows are available. A lock icon will appear on unavailable titles.
Ranges $96-216 per year for ads or no ads.
Like anime? Crunchyroll offers a $7.99 plan, but it might not have all the content, so then there’s the $11.99 plan. So $96-144 per year. But their catalog doesn’t even have every fucking anime, and they’ve let dubbing go to the wayside after buying out their main competitor, Funimation (in which we lost several anime due to licensing).
Listen to music on top of that? Spotify for non-students ($5.99) costs $11.99, so $144 in a year. YT music is $10.99 for non-students, so $132
So say you listen to Spotify, like anime, and watch Netflix, you’re paying at minimum $336 per year, on the cheapest plans available, which usually have ads or missing features.
I’ve been looking at Optiplex and Lenovo ThinkCentres on ebay recently, and for my bare minimum standards of 1. Can support virtualization, 2. Can do Intel quick sync video and encode HEVC 10-bit (So about 10 year old devices) the prices range around $90-$150. Some 2TB HDDs would be about $100. You’d probably be pirating since most of the new shows on streaming services have no physical media to buy/no way of just owning a movie or TV box set. Even then, outright buying music and movies is cheaper in the long run. Anything you already own can be added to your library. You’ll never be told that “oops we didn’t pay to re-up our access to that movie, so it’s gone!” You’ll never have new ads, paywalled features, limited devices, or other bullshit. The server is up whenever you want it to be, provided you can handle being tech support.
So in the end, a home server + drives costs less than paying for several services where you own shit, and they can cut features or raise the price any day. But yes, we’re just being conceited assholes.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
conceited
1981 wants it’s term back.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
You know you can setup a stack for piracy in less than 10min on a $40 microcomputer or even on an old android phone. And with the right setup you can automate the downloads meaning you just search for stuff and it downloads it without effort.
Time and money, not so much.
Checkout YAMS
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Just let us be excited
This is our version when there’s a big storm and your neighbourhood dads start going around with chainsaws offering to cut up downed trees.
mlg@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Dawg even pirate stream sites don’t host on AWS and GCP, you can still watch your content for free online without worrying about a cloud outage because pirate sites actually distribute their files on several cloud platforms since they’re technically always at risk of DMCA lol.
thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
lmao, buddy you can get a 10tb hard drive for like $200 and fit all the pirated media you want on it. that’s less money than two mainline subscriptions for a year.
Scavenger8294@feddit.org 6 months ago
old server + 12 tb block acc. Costs like 15 cans of coke
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 6 months ago
It’s ok to be jealous, it’s a normal emotion.
teft@piefed.social 6 months ago
Ludicrous amounts of time and money? What do you think is involved with media piracy? lol
Damage@feddit.it 6 months ago
Yeah I mean, give us this one satisfaction!
foster@lemmy.hangdaan.com 6 months ago
What’s even funnier are the people who spend lots of money on subscription services to own nothing. This outage just demonstrates who really owns their purchases.
SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
streaming service: 15-20€ per month per service me: vpn 5€ and a cheap hard drive
i’d be poorer with subscribing
remon@ani.social 6 months ago
I don’t wanna say I told you so, but …
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think they were just pointing out that this is the problem with subscription services. You own nothing and you’re screwed when the service goes down.
It really doesn’t take “ludicrous amounts of time and money” to build a private library. It’s interesting how the subscription giants have managed to change people’s perceptions - when you buy content to keep, you keep some of the value, but when you subscribe you’re just getting a time pass to use someone else’s library and won’t see that money again.
They sold the proposition on convenience when everything was in one place, but not it’s all fragmented it’s a waste of money.
And of course plenty of people are building media libraries for free by sailing the seas.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 6 months ago
yep!
otter@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Signal seems to be down as well?
BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
Its back up now but that’s because Signal uses AWS.
I like signal and use it daily, but it is very strange that an app built for privacy and security doesn’t let you self host. I wonder about the reasoning behind that sometimes.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think it’s more questionable that it uses AWS
veeesix@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It appears to be resolved now? I’m able to message people.
otter@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
It’s working on my end as well!
BozeKnoflook@lemmy.world 6 months ago
health.aws.amazon.com/health/status
I suspect the big problem is that IAM (AWS authentication system) is affected and it is not decentralized, which is causing other systems worldwide to fail because the internal authentication is broken.
I can’t login to the AWS console to check on my stuff in the European zone, because the login goes through IAM in us-east-1 where all the authentication does.
eah@programming.dev 6 months ago
Cloudflare: What am I? Chopped liver?
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
There is a chrome addon that will “block” anything from AWS with the goal being you get to see how much of the world relies on it.
I’m starting to understand why some companies are starting to exit AWS and back to their own data centers.
7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
That’s the ebb and flow of IT hosting / support.
On prem -> off prem -> on prem -> off prem
Same goes for off shore workers. Back and forth back and forth
Every company I’ve ever worked for has had that flip flop. :/
kungen@feddit.nu 6 months ago
AWS doesn’t go down that often to impact such decisions I wouldn’t think… I think it’s more likely that these companies calculated that AWS isn’t worth the price for their workloads?
I’ve been at several companies where just a day’s worth of their AWS costs would be able to finance significantly stronger compute/storage, in addition to an administration team for all that. (Of course it’s not that simple, but you get what I mean)