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  • skittle07crusher@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Obligatory https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what-happened-when-six-boys-were-shipwrecked-for-15-months

    The real Lord of the Flies: what happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months

    When a group of schoolboys were marooned on an island in 1965, it turned out very differently from William Golding’s bestseller, writes Rutger Bregman

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    • laranis@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Honestly, I think six is likely the right number for this to work. I don’t recall how many boys were in Lord of the Flies, but you get to 10-15 and you’re absolutely going to start forming factions. And a hierarchy. And with more opinions you get more disagreements, and you’re right back to Lord of the Flies.

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    • stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I read Bregman’s book and can recommend it. The boys in question collaborated, grew crops and fished. Whenever they had a fight amongst them they’d retreat to cool down. One of them broke his leg and the others cared for him.

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    • Thebular@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hey, thanks man, that was an interesting read, perfect for insomniacs trying to fall asleep.

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    • Armand1@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Anyone know what the movie mentioned in the article is called? Could be a fun niche watch.

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      • sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The movie mentioned turned out to be a 10 minutes long documentary:

        youtu.be/qHO_RlJxnVI

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The name of that book is kinda stupid, IMO.

    None of those kids even have the ability to command flies.

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    • bampop@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was expecting one of the boys to get complete mastery of the word “the”, then get the power of flight so he could leave the island. So disappointed.

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    • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Shucks to your Ass-mar” Said Ralph, as his face grew white, his eyes lost focus, and a telltale buzzing began emanating from somewhere deep inside of him. His mouth drooped low and spread wide forming a horrifying O at least two feet in diameter. The buzzing became louder and more frantic, as thousands of flies began to spill from his mouth, hurtling towards the small, fat boy in front of him whose even now was attempting, futilely, to run from the buzzing, angry, hungry swarm of flies.

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    • morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t remember it very well but I thought the title was a reference to something hypothetical one of the kids thought of

      Like they saw something they didn’t fully understand and extrapolated that the thing they were seeing was the lord of the flies

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      • bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Baal-zebub: Baal is “lord” or “master”, zebub means “fly”.

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  • iamdisappoint@reddthat.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I hated that damn book, but this (complete with conch) is hilarious.

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    • kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I both dislike the book and dislike this comic for missing the actual point of the book, which is not in fact, haha, this is what would actually happen and it’s just a group of random kids. It was specifically portraying british aristocratic children to criticize the colonizer mindset while discussing larger issues of human nature amd civility and structure vs chaos.

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    • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I liked that book. It was eye-opening. And kinda made me appreciate the relative orderliness we have in a society run by adults. As much as kids would love to run wild & free with no supervision, but I was fortunate to be a child of the 1970’s & 80s so I enjoyed the perfect balance of wild freedom with parental care at the end of every day.

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      • Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If it’s really that eye-opening is debatable I would see. As another user has posted it already, this is a more realistic scenario: theguardian.com/…/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what…

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      • Whelks_chance@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Reading it in the early 00s it made me wish I lived somewhere far more interesting with far more wild classmates.

        All the rules and restrictions were so internalised, I think if we were abandoned on an island half of them would just sit still and starve.

        I can’t imagine any of them being interesting enough to try to start their own religious cult or anything.

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    • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Can I ask why? It was actually one of my favorites in school, so just curious for a differing opinion.

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      • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I hated it because it was totally unbelievable, just a paternalistic rationalization for authority

        I was confronted with the knowledge that the adults around me all thought the only thing keeping me from murdering someone was layers of rules and supervision. Like we’re all just rabid animals barely held back by a watchful eye

        Even then, I knew myself better than that. I knew people better than that

        But that’s how our society treats people. Like monsters that must be managed

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      • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Maybe it was presented to him as required school reading so that’s why he hated it 😜

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  • davetortoise@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Uhm guys we should have a meeting ☝️🤓

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  • dechnically@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    this is how my world history teacher introduced us to locke and hobbes

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  • itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Watch out for that boulder, Piggy

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    • einlander@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sucks to your assmar

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    • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Spoiler alert: >!Piggy died.!<

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      • kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m reading the book at the moment and shouldn’t even be in this thread but this was a spoiler for me!

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      • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        the spoiler didn’t work for me, but I’ve already read it

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