Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme crushes Apple M4, Intel, and AMD in new benchmarks

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Delta_V@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/qualcomm/snapdragon-x2-elite-extreme-crushes-apple-m4-intel-and-amd-in-new-benchmarks

…In Geekbench 6.5 single-core, the X2 Elite Extreme posts a score of 4,080, edging out Apple’s M4 (3,872) and leaving AMD’s Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (2,881) and Intel’s Core Ultra 9 288V (2,919) far behind…

…The multi-core story is even more dramatic. With a Geekbench 6.5 multi-core score of 23,491, the X2 Elite Extreme nearly doubles the Intel Core Ultra 9 185H (11,386) and comfortably outpaces Apple’s M4 (15,146) and AMD’s Ryzen AI 9 370 (15,443)…

…This isn’t just a speed play — Qualcomm is betting that its ARM-based design can deliver desktop-class performance at mobile-class power draw, enabling thin, fanless designs or ultra-light laptops with battery life measured in days, not hours.

One of the more intriguing aspects of the Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme is its memory‑in‑package design, a departure from the off‑package RAM used in other X2 Elite variants. Qualcomm is using a System‑in‑Package (SiP) approach here, integrating the RAM directly alongside the CPU, GPU, and NPU on the same substrate.

This proximity slashes latency and boosts bandwidth — up to 228 GB/s compared to 152 GB/s on the off‑package models — while also enabling a unified memory architecture similar in concept to Apple’s M‑series chips, where CPU and GPU share the same pool for faster, more efficient data access…

… the company notes the “first half” of 2026 for the new Snapdragon X2 Elite and Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme…

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Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Keep in mind the original X Elite benchmarks were never replicated in real world devices.

This is almost certainly a premeditated attempt at “legal fraud”.

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- boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They also used the base M4, not M4 Pro or Max (idk if the latter is out but I know the Pro is)
  
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  - CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Seems like they’re also using two different Intel chips in their testing for some reason.
    
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  - Ugurcan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    M4 Max doesn’t have the fastest single core in Apple’s arsenal either, the king is A19 now (yup, the one in iPhones):
    
    tomshardware.com/…/apples-a19-becomes-the-fastest…
    
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  - Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Now this all makes sense
    
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- Zak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I imagine things would be much closer if they put a giant heatsink that Ryzen 370 they’re comparing and ran it at its 54W configurable TDP instead of the default 28W.
  
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  - pycorax@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Shouldn’t they also be comparing it to Strix Halo instead?
    
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- tal@olio.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Ah. Thanks for the context.
  
  Well, after they have product out, third parties will benchmark them, and we’ll see how they actually stack up.
  
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- SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I saw someone liquid cool an Arduino to push it to the max, but you couldn't declare it to be a regular benchmark...
  
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- itztalal@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  desktop-class performance at mobile-class power draw
  
  This made my bullshit detector go haywire.
  
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a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Windows with an X2 Elite or Mac with an M5.

Let me know when these X elite chips have full Linux compatibility and then I’ll be interested. Until then, if I’ll stick with Mac, it has the better hardware.

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- clucose@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Friendly Question: has M4 full linux support?
  
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  - Toes@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    No, neither does M3. You can read more about this project here: asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-support/m4/ Even M2 and M1 support is still being worked on.
    
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  - a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I think I see what you’re saying. My gripe is that if I want a laptop/tablet with a great ARM chip, with long battery life, my options all force me to use one of two operating systems that I’d prefer not to use for ideological reasons. If I’m forced to use one, because I want an ARM device, I might as well use the one that has the best hardware. M5s are right around the corner and the MacBook Airs are really competitive.
    
    If I misinterpreted your question, then no, as far as I’m aware, none of the M series has FULL support. The M1s and M2s are pretty close though.
    
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  - SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Not who you asked, but at bare minimum macOS continues to be certified UNIX.
    
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  - barnaclebutt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    M1 still doesn’t have full Linux support, unfortunately. They’ve done a lot of good work, but it isn’t there yet. Yet, another reason not to buy snapdragon PCs yet.
    
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- macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  LOL.
  
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Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme

That doesn’t sound very high end, I think I’ll wait for the Pro version, preferably Pro Plus.

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- Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  BadDragon X2 Elite Extreme MAGNUM
  
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  - Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The Rare version?
    
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  - ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That one will go hard
    
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- PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It sounds like an advertisement for a condom or dildo
  
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  - mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Don’t you want to put on some of this thermal paste?
    
    Where this is going, baby, you don’t need no thermal paste!
    
    faints on floor
    
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- zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Elite Extreme
  
  Sounds like it focuses more on shiny RGB than performance.
  
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- prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The ultra absorbent one is the one to get
  
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just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m going to call semi-bullshit here, or there is a major revisionist version or catch. If this were true, they’d be STUPID to not be working fast as hell to get full, unlocked Linux support up streamed and start selling this as a datacenter competitor to what Amazon, Microsoft, and Amazon are offering, because it would a entirely new class of performance. It could also dig into Nvidia and AMDs datacenter sales at scale of this efficient.

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- boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They out desktop cooling on the testbench apparently.
  
  They’re also comparing to only the base M4 chip, not the Pro.
  
  Also the M5 could still come out this year. But it also might not so it’s still a fair comparison till then.
  
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- jollyrogue@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Qualcomm is pretty dumb. Even if this were true, they’d still be leaving Linux support to the community.
  
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the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yeah I’ll wait for independent benchmarks, thanks.

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- Damage@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  With actual devices
  
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artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This will be super cool when we actually have OSs that can run on them!

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YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Windows 11 will turn this into a 486.

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malwieder@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
X2 “Elite Extreme” probably in ideal conditions vs. the base M4 chip in a real-world device. Sure, nice single core results but Apple will likely counter with the M5 (the A19 Pro already reaches around 4,000 and the M chips can probably clock a bit higher). And the M4 Pro and Max already score as high or higher in multi-core. Real world in a 14 inch laptop.

It doesn’t “crush” the M4 series at all and we’ll see how it’ll perform in a comparable power/thermal envelope.

I don’t hate what Qualcomm is doing here, but these chips only work properly under Windows and the Windows app ecosystem still hasn’t embraced ARM all that much, and from what I’ve heard Windows’ x64 to ARM translation layer is not as good as Rosetta 2. Linux support is pretty horrible, especially at launch.

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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The X1 Elite never lived up to its geekbench scores, and the drivers are absolute dogshit.

The X2 Elite wont match Apple or AMD in real world scenarios either, I’d wager.

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JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I am simple person. I see geekbench, I ignore claims and rest of article.

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KiwiTB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I highly doubt this is accurate. Be nice, but doubt it.

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verdi@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
*X Elite opens browser windows faster under desktop cooling.

FTFY

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commander@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
How’s the GPU drivers though? Especially to me for Linux. These should be used in PC gaming handhelds but Qualcomm support is mediocre

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- squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  How’s the GPU drivers though? Especially to me for Linux.
  
  Not. The answer is not.
  
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- humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  linux on arm is not mature. on windows, typically emulation of x86 is used. They’ll need to also support all of the gpu libraries for gaming.
  
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  - vaionko@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Desktop linux on arm*. The kernel itself has been running on embedded arm deviced for 25 years and on a large portion of phones for 15.
    
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- fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  If it’s anything like their windows driver support then also awful. Maybe things have improved in the last year or so, but has Qualcomm ever put real effort into making ARM Windows laptops good?
  
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VeloRama@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Can’t wait for Linux to support it and Tuxedo creating a laptop with it.

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fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Then Apple releases M5.

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Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
And here I am with my cheap old quad core doing my stuff.

Except for the theoretical interest, what are we supposed to do with stuff like that? Is it just more data centers? Does I sound like 640KB is enough?

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- friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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  - Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Ah, a not at all theoretical example but a real life one 😁 /s
    
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itztalal@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

desktop-class performance at mobile-class power draw

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windowcentral.com

Nothing to see here, folks.

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flemtone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
When the Snapdragon GPU performance is on par with AMD’s 780m or above then we can talk.

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ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Oh no, each new chip is going to be tree at something than another chip and vice versa. Anyways, what did people have for lunch?

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MuskyMelon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
In my experience, arm64 is nowhere close to x64 with heavy multi processing/threading loads.

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