cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/22110534
Gavin Newsom called for “continuing the work of Charlie Kirk”
That’s a big yikes from me dawg
We must not posthumously sanitize Charlie Kirk's hateful life
Submitted 2 days ago by SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world to conservative@sh.itjust.works
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/we-must-not-posthumously-sanitize
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QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Gavin Newsom is basically neoliberalism incarnate.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Gavin isn’t Left enough to be a Neo Liberal
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Pretty generic of a phrase. It’s sane washing a lot of it, and the media has continually pushed the angle that he has been working to get the younger generation into politics.
If that’s the work he is referring to, then yea, fine, let’s continue it. But if it’s the hateful, divisive way he was doing it, then it should die with him.
Fuck Charlie Kirk, and has his regressive political views.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Gavin Newsom called for “continuing the work of Charlie Kirk”
Give newsom a break. Now he has to find someone else to tell him what to think about trans people.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Should be the thing to completely depose him through election.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Charlie Kirk was political the same way the Ku Klux Klan is political.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
This was well written and thought out.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Indeed it was. Kirk was a monster and he should not be treated as anything less.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Lemmy: hold my beer.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Wait what? Because people are asking others to chill with the cheering?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I think the author is missing the point. I know almost nothing about Kirk, I only heard about him an hour or so after the shooting when my coworkers brought it up, and I think I’m part of the majority, at least of people who disagree with him.
Here’s the point:
- Kirk was shot under a tent that said “prove me wrong,” directly asking for open debate
- Everyone and their dog is condemning the violence, so merely condemning violence won’t get noticed
- Gavin Newsom seems to be angling for a presidential run, so he needs to be seen as reasonable to distance himself from Trump
It’s the right political move, and most of those who read his message won’t look too closely into Kirk anyway. He needs to communicate order and tolerance right now to keep his presidential bid alive.
I’m not a fan of Kirk or Newsom, I’m merely looking at this as a strategic move, and it seems to be the right one IMO.
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 days ago
tolerance
Can’t tolerate intolerance.
Arcka@midwest.social 2 days ago
tolerance
Can’t tolerate intolerance.
They can and they do.
(Democratic politicians, that is.)
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I never said that’s the correct moral choice, I said that’s what a president who wants to appeal to disenfranchised Trump voters needs to do. This isn’t the election to push far left policies, it’s the election to revert to where we were at and set up for the leftist policies in the second term. Undoing what Trump broke is more than enough change for the average voter.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Newsom having a bromance with a dead transphobe is more reason for me to sit 2028 out if it ends up being him.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Don’t sit it out, join me in voting for a third party you actually believe in. Chances are, you don’t live in a state that’s going to determine the election anyway, so you might as well vote your conscience.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 days ago
He needs to communicate order and tolerance right now to keep his presidential bid alive.
That's absolutely not what the non-Republican electorate wants right now. What they want is anti-fascist action, not bromance with fascists.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Maybe that’s what you want, but I don’t think that’s what the quiet majority wants, and I think Newsom knows that. People generally want stability and for the President to not take over the news cycle.
CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 days ago
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Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
If there happens to be a few more MAGA crazies that get shot then they will forget building a statue of this shitbag. Just saying.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Only if there’s a steady, perpetual stream though.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The context of the civil rights act is a little more nuanced than what this implies.
He stated that he understands the act was drawn up to combat segregation, but bemoaned it because it was now being used a weapon against white people.
Instead of shooting him, someone should have drawn his attention to the 2009 case of Ricci v. DeStefano. The case was about the New Haven, CT firefighters’ promotion exam results showing that white and Hispanic candidates scored highest, but the city discarded the test results fearing a lawsuit from minority firefighters who did worse.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favour of the white and Hispanic firefighters, finding that discarding the test results violated Title VII of the Civil Rights Act (which prohibits discrimination based on race).
Basically, the civil right act that he said harmed white men, protected them here. Thus, proving Kirk to be wrong.
You dont need to kill the Charlie Kirks of the world, you only ever needed to hit them with words and facts.
Even if you were to look at more recent examples that have been filed, they are not around the act itself, but the actions of individuals who are acting out their social media fantasies as crusaders for what they feel is right. Kirk was just straight up wrong here. There was zero need for this to escalate to murder. None at all.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh, sweet summer child…
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You can’t used facts and logic to reason someone out of a position that they didn’t use facts and logic to arrive at in the first place. They only speak one language. That language is violence.
_core@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
They would simply claim it was a one off statistical anomaly and their point still stands, without providing evidence of course.