LibreOffice. No need for MS Office, ever
Microsoft Word documents will be saved to the cloud automatically on Windows going forward
Submitted 4 hours ago by simple@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
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Bwaz@lemmy.world 14 minutes ago
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 19 minutes ago
This is certainly about making sure your files are safe and definitely not about stealing your data for training AI. /s
Don’t let Murdersoft steal your data. Don’t contribute to their corruption or genocide assistance.
Step 1: fedoraproject.org
Step 2: www.libreoffice.orginnermachine@lemmy.world 8 minutes ago
As a clueless individual, how are they assisting genocide?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 minutes ago
Working hand in hand with the Israeli government in mass surveillance and (likely) AI-generated targeting data.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 minutes ago
Thanks, going to try out LibreOffice. Does it has same (or similar) functions as Word itself?
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
It’s designed to be very similar. If you are already familiar with Word, you should feel right at home.
otacon239@lemmy.world 8 minutes ago
I’ve been using it for over a decade now and have only rarely come across broken documents due to proprietary features. If you’re making docs for yourself, I’d say it’s pretty much a 100% replacement. Things can get a bit more fucky if you’re having exchanges where you edit with Libre and someone else edits with Word. But other than that, they’re pretty darn close.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
www.libreoffice.org if you want microsoft to stop messing with your office apps.
simple@piefed.social 2 hours ago
There is also only office which has better compatibility with MSOffice file types
mintiefresh@piefed.ca 1 hour ago
This here.
I wish Only Office got as much fanfare as LibreOffice. The UI is much closer to Microsoft Office and it tends to have better compatibility.
I have both installed though and use them both lol.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I second this. There’s a little bit of a learning curve on some of the functionality, but it’s not bad at all. And most of the functionality is very easy to find. I moved over to Libre Office several years ago and it’s been great.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Office would have a learning curve too if you hadn’t been using it since you were a child.
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 39 minutes ago
You can now enable a tabbed interface similar to Microsoft Office
AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
tell your friends.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 48 minutes ago
OnlyOffice gang www.onlyoffice.com/download-desktop.aspx
obinice@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Let’s say this huge breach of security and privacy is okay.
How are Microsoft ensuring these sensitive documents are not being transferred via or stored on servers located in hostile countries with lax data laws (such as foreign nations like the USA?).
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Microsoft has already said it doesn’t matter where your data is stored, it isn’t safe from the United States.
But you can change this behaviour in settings, it’s just the default for now.
So, if you don’t trust Microsoft to handle your documents, but still somehow use MS Word and OneDrive, for the moment you can still stop it from saving your Word documents to their servers.
Exusia@lemmy.world 25 minutes ago
Ms office 2016 install still going strong with zero cloud function. That day I lose it is the day LibreOffice copies itself from the laptop to the desktop. Aint paying for O365
fullsquare@awful.systems 3 hours ago
wdym, that’s the point
Prox@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I suppose this means Microsoft will not count Word doc file sizes against users’ cloud storage quotas, right? Right??
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 32 minutes ago
No, they upload your file, delete the local file, then oopsie, you ran out of cloud storage, please pay $99/month to access your files.
i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 3 hours ago
🤣
floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
It’ll be like Google: everything goes in, nothing comes out unless you jump through difficult hoops, price continually goes up.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Where do you think Google learned it?
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 3 hours ago
Getting anything out is already almost impossible. I moved sway from 3rd party cloud storage a couple years back. I had to get 500gb from onedrive and it was refusing to download at anything more than 50kb/s (my internet was significantly better than that)
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
Mario_Kart8_deluxe.iso.docx
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Anakinsmirk.jpg
flandish@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
tip: do not write about the revolution, short stories, hatred of capitalism, your suicide plans, or your teenage angst and erotic anthropomorphic horse fan fiction.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
tip: Only write about the revolution, short stories about your hatred of capitalism, your suicide plans, or your teenage angst and erotic anthropomorphic horse fan fiction.
For everything else, use LibreOffice.
flandish@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
directions unclear, now I’m directing a netflix special on sexy horse guerrillas.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
bingo
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 34 minutes ago
I love to kill cops ~in~ ~GTA~
Kenny2999@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
So just bpmb threats and realistic beastiality. Got it.
saddlebag@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Tina Belcher?
flandish@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Ha! Exactly where I was going with that.
Cherry@piefed.social 2 hours ago
Ensure to make sure every doc has 17 giant sized images saying FU MS
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 hour ago
Switched to linux. No regrets so far.
Of the installs I’ve done in the past year, none were absolutely flawless. One had an error that I just hit “retry” and it worked. One required some serious googling but I found the fix on reddit (rip). One didn’t work at all, and I switched to a different distro that did work.
I’m not going to lie and sugarcoat it, but once I got past the install everything has been fine. Hopefully things will continue to improve
Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 hours ago
You can turn it off. Opt-out is still bullshit.
kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
- you can turn it off for now
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
You can make yourself believe that you turned it off for now*
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
until your computer force reboots itself in the middle of the day to do updates it didn’t tell you about, and you log back in and later that night find it uploaded all your shit to the cloud and just for good measure deleted some of it too as a fuck you
it’s the Microsoft way
CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 hours ago
The true opt out is to stop using Microsoft products
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 30 minutes ago
You can’t opt out, most healthcate providers use windows.
Mental health awareness? No thanks, I rather just write in a journal and talk to myself in the mirror as therapy.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca 1 hour ago
Microsoft all about opting out rather than opting in.
thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Which means an AI scans it…
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
No for most it’s customers and an option for them all. MS is very clear in its policies. Any AI services you use, isn’t sent back for training. The policy is very clearly explained and one of the clearer ones.
Business or enterprise users data isn’t trained and individuals data can opt out
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 hour ago
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thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
I remember when facebook had a policy to require users to opt-in to having third parties scrape users data, but then it turned out a “bug” caused FB to sell everyones data anyway and they made billions more money than they would have.
I have no doubt a similar “bug” will make its way to the MS servers if one hasnt already.
nukeforyou@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
What if I’m using a pirated copy of windows and office?
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Seriously, Microsoft!?!?
Is this on Macs too?!?
nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 hours ago
Is this on Macs too?!?
Not mine, then again I use nothing Microsoft on my Mac.
Korkki@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
No big corporation or state institution handling vast amounts of customer data will not allow this. Also really bad for regular consumer too. Microsoft servers will become treasure trove for hackers.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Silence! The great Microsoft has decreed that from this day forward your documents belong to them! No dissension!
Proceed to the payment portal to pay your offerings immediately. Only those worthy enough to play for the Extra^TM^ and Premium^TM^ tiers will be allowed to use the File menu.
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
I actually appreciate this. The only place I use Word is at work, and nothing I create in Word at work is ‘mine’. I do not care at all about the security of things I do at work (that’s for our IT Security team to care about), and all this means is that if I accidentally screw up, or if my computer just up and dies on me… all of my work files should be ‘safe’.
My employer has been going very hard towards ensuring that our work computers can ONLY be used for work purposes. Once I accepted this and embraced it I found that I’m now 100% free of Microsoft for anything personal, and it is amazing.
AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
there is a reaching hand that goes further than just using it for work.
lets say you open libreoffice writer and write a party invite. you send this party invite to a friend - they are invited to your party.
your friend opens it in MSWord, its uploaded to the cloud and scraped for all of your personal data to train their AI and to be sold to the lowest bidder.
you had and want nothing to do with microsoft, but they are still harvesting your data.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
Export to a .pdf, automatically opens by default in user browser via local storage as a reader, bypasses MS
This is still problematic shit though, on the same level as enabling Recall by default and encrypting W11 storage devices by default.
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
I agree, however you’re never going to be able to fully control things that you’ve sent out for other people. Even this post can, and likely will, end up as training data for AI. ‘The only winning move is not to play’ applies to a lot of things in life, and if you truly want to protect your data then the best move is to not create any data. The second best move is to not share any data that you’ve created.
Broken@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
I mean, I’m in the same boat. This doesn’t effect me except for work stuff. But here’s the thing, all of my documents are already backed up to the cloud via OneDrive settings. So this is redundant at best.
At the end of the day, one of the reasons I hate the MS experience is because they push things on you. Its not your PC, its theirs. Hey, you want to use OneDrive? No? Are you sure? No? Are you really sure? No? Why don’t I just turn it on for you so you can see how great it is. You must have turned it off by accident, let me turn it back on. OK, OK I get it you really don’t want to use onedrive. Oh, I forgot that fact once our annual update came out and undid that setting. You straight out uninstalled onedirve and altered your registry? Ok, how about we just upload Word documents for you.
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Part of why I still hate it at work; work knows almost everything about me. People with poor understanding of PII have my personal information, and use MS products. Microsoft knows all of that, and everything that I type, the notes I make, the phrases I use, inferences on my interests, and can combine that with other profiles. It helps put together a much more complete picture and profile of me and why I interface with. And I can’t opt out, can’t use Linux, and can’t just go somewhere else to avoid it.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I have a Word document saved into my ‘personal account vault’ which is for personal thoughts (like a diary). Does this mean, they’ll automatically upload this too into their cloud?
If that’s the case, not sure what to do. Tempted to go back to old school diary but risk the chance of my family finding it.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 10 minutes ago
Time to learn another language then mix them
Siu Mit USA De Fa Si Si Zu Yi
The Only Good Fa Xi Si Zu Yi Ze Hai Sei Zo Ge(Destroy fascism in the USA
The only good fascist is a dead one)Now just need to transpose that and replace some characters. Of course, making it offline would greatly reduce government/corporate surveillance threats. As long as your family aren’t cryptographers, they won’t be able to decrypt it.
(Its Tri-Lingual. Cantonese Jyutping, Mandarin Pinyin, and English of course. Romanization of characters makes it harder to guess words especially when it gets transposed with a bunch of others.)
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 52 minutes ago
Markdown is great for that. There also are some WYSIWYG and a lot of side-fiew editors.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 minutes ago
Thanks, I’ll look into Markdown!
Or is it about saving notes to cloud?
No, that’s not it. I just want a Word-alike thing that allows me to put a password on it and use it as a ‘modern diary’ (like how you can make chapters and such in Word).
Not sure if I explained it well, English isn’t my native language. So wasn’t sure how to explain it
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
I don’t get it, does Microsoft WANT everyone to stop using their products? First they fuck uptheir OSes, then they start planting shady shit in their OSes, and now it’s down to every single goddamned piece of software they poop out! What in the fuck are they even doing!
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
Office is the product that helped keep Microsoft ticking over. The world is too dependant on Office and people won’t abandon it just because of this.
My fat fingers keep trying to type Microsoft Orifice.
abfarid@startrek.website 2 hours ago
I’m pretty sure most regular users will not even notice the charge, and find it useful down the line. Cause one day they will mess something up, complain to MS that they “lost their work”, will be pointed to the cloud where everything was synced, and rejoice. Most users don’t really care about the implications that their documents are in the cloud.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
Munoz backs up the decision with half a dozen advantages for saving documents to the cloud. From never losing progress and access anywhere to easy collaboration and increased security and compliance.
Munoz kept out the little details where nobody wants this and this is only a good thing for Microsoft
relativestranger@feddit.nl 2 hours ago
sounds like a ‘service problem’ someone once spoke about…
acquire your ms office ‘elsewhere’ and never link it to a ms account. same with windows. no msa, no ‘cloud’ to save to.
and there is a service problem here.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
This will be good for the post I saw yesterday where someone was working on some story for weeks and lost it all because they didn’t have a backup lol
Patches@ttrpg.network 1 hour ago
Isn’t this already the default?
I have to change it on every single fuckin document already. Have done so for years now at work.
// I don’t use Word outside of work…
the_q@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Gotta feed that AI!
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Most customers don’t want their users saving locally anyway for data protection and not having to do extra compliance and workstation management.
Of course folks here are acting like setting a default they don’t like is insane chaos.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
yet another reason to ditch microsoft
aarRJaay@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Me me guess - is this so they can train the LLM using the data we’re ‘giving’ them? F U!!
deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 minutes ago
LibreOffice does everything I need except that their version of Power Point (forgot the name lol) is a mess to work with in terms of making the slide deck visual appealing. Automatic guide lines, snapping and smartart, to name a few.
Thinking about onlyoffice but I’m not sure if I can trust them since I read about then trying to hide their ties to Russia.