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Humanity will likely survive climate change, but the vast majority of humans won't.

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Nay@feddit.nl⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Climate change is an ongoing process that takes decades to centuries. That’s very fast as far as evolution and natural climactic shifts are concerned, but on a human scale long term. Given that it’s not stopping within the lifespan of one person, and contributes to virtually every health problem in subtle ways, it’d seem a bit difficult to say if a given person has “survived it” or not, even if they live to an old age.

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    • Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not sure exactly what you mean regarding health and lifespan, but I think looking forward from 2025, things are quickly going to go off the rails. We’ve already been seeing severe problems resulting from climate change for years now, and I think that it’s going to rapidly get worse within the next 5-10 years. I’m not talking about sea level rise (except in very vulnerable places that are already partially underwater, like Florida), but about intensifying weather disasters, droughts, and shocks to the global food supply. As a result of this, I think we will see more and more unrest as well as authoritarianism used to deal with that unrest. How quickly all this is going to decimate the population is anyone’s guess.

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      • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I disagree.

        I dont think its particularly likely there will be famines in the next 5 years or so on a scale that can’t be countered by aid.

        Sure, economies might start to feel some very serious consequences, shit might start to get very real, I just dont think we’re quite at the point where people start dying.

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      • higgsboson@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        looking forward from 2025, things are quickly going to go off the rails.

        Going to? Going to? Have you not... gestures vaguely

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      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m so glad I don’t have any kids. That failure was a blessing in disguise

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  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bit heavy for the shower.

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    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Its the nazi version of the shower

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    • Nay@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It just hit me in a sobering sorta way.

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    • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It where I go to cry when it’s not raining. :(

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Image

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    • baconmonsta@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Let the shower wash away your tears...

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      • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I want a refund on this “no tears” baby shampoo. Didn’t do a damn thing for my depression.

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  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No species lasts forever—and the faster their environment changes, the sooner their expiration date.

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    • synae@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those other species weren’t the authors of the global ecosystem’s demise, even with an understanding of the situation and opportunity to change the course of events

      Not really a fair comparison, is what I’m saying.

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    • higgsboson@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When faced with a changing environment, aa species has 3 choices: Adapt, Migrate, or Die.

      Humans have apparently decided to vault past the first two and just yank that third one.

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      • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, why do you say that? I don’t know if any other species that lives in a greater variety of environments. There are humans living on every continent, including Antarctica. There are humans living with support in space and under the sea.

        We have migrated, to everywhere. And we can adapt, to almost anything.

        And to clarify, I don’t think we’ll all survive, but I highly doubt we’d all die.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No other species are quite like humans though

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      • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Meh, we wouldn’t be the first species to be so successful that we kill ourselves off.

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    • Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Depends on what you define as “lasts forever”. We are direct descendants of some kind of a rodent. Yeah, our species has changed “kind of much” since those days, but I wouldn’t worry about that kind of “expiration”. We are some rodents’ grand-grand-grand-…-grandchildren, and I think the rodent would be very much okay with us not looking very squirrellike, if they somehow was to find out they are our ancestor. They’d love us all the same :)

      But of course, in our case, it won’t be that evolution changes us into something else. It’s rather, we will just vault 92’ify ourselves.

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    • abbadon420@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Some species are contesting that statement very strongly. Take the horseshoecrab, or the tardigrate or even the cockroach. Humans are known for their fast adaptability, so I’d bet my money on us joining that list.

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      • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Take the horseshoecrab, or the tardigrate or even the cockroach.

        None of those are species—they’re a family, a phylum, and a (partial) order, respectively. While those clades have been relatively stable morphologically, species within each clade still come and go.

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  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lol, OK.

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    • Nay@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What do you disagree with, though?

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      • crandlecan@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Humans will perish, as will 90% of life on Earth.

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