Submitted 2 days ago by AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/26/doge-ai-tool-delete-list-federal-regulations
Oh, good. Everything was feeling a little too calm, so of course they’re doing this right fucking now.
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau used it to write “100% of deregulations”.
Doesn't sound like very good protection. It should be illegal to use "AI" like this, making critical decisions with a technology well known for making massive errors is so fucking stupid I can't even.
It should be illegal to use “AI” like this
That would require the people trying to pass laws to deregulate AI to stop trying to pass laws to deregulate AI. But no, that’s not what we want. We want more money going to the top while paying fewer people along the way.
With the way Xitter “reprogrammed” new results from Gr0ck, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re just copying and pasting from project 2025 and telling whichever LLM to reword everything into legalese so that they can claim ignorance on how their laws are killing their voters.
Yeah I'm afraid we're gonna miss the boat on this one too just like we did with social media, we learned nothing.
But it brings profits to tech companies run by centibillionaires on their way to becoming trillionaires. And that’s the point of human existence.
This is reminding me of those pc optimizer tools like CCleaner that promised to find a bunch of things to uninstall and redundant/trash files to delete and make your pc 3000x faster, but ended up breaking your system.
CCleaner actually worked as intended for a long time until it enshittified. It’s also less relevant in the age of fast as fuck SSDs over HDDs to need to clean up temp files and stuff to make the PC faster.
What about bleach bit?
🤨 CCleaner never failed me. Even ran it on non-critical servers to see if it would break shit. Not one time did it introduce a breaking change. Maybe it’s different now?
Maybe ccleaner was fine, there were a bunch of these tools and ccleaner is the one i remembered the name. Wasnt really trying to criticize ccleaner specifically
Anyone who does this either doesn’t understand how generative AI works or does understand and is just using it as an excuse to deregulate.
It is the second thing. They could just delete the regulations they don’t like outright, inserting AI into the process is just to pretend it was some logical process.
Yes. That’s what AI actually adds - plausible deniability.
Absolutely the second. Once something has been destroyed, it takes years or decades to get it back. They’re purposely banking on going overboard, knowing full well it will collapse all the institutions and that repairing that can’t occur at the same pace.
I wonder if those using the tool are prepared for “Unforeseen Consequences”…
Eh, who am I kidding. Of course they’re not.
Of course they are, the tool is the excuse and the “unforeseen consequences” are the goal.
Is there is a list of employees of DOGE? I would like to write them letters.
I think we could do better than letters. maybe a few packages.
The People Carrying Out Musk’s Plans at DOGE
I think several of them have quit by now, but I’m sure they would still appreciate your helpful feedback.
There’s one who’s dad is a professor at a university. You could write to the university about it. They would like that a lot I think.
Or target them.
No, they did not use an algorithm to make the decisions. They are making the choices, but, being the feckless cowards they are, they’re actually trying to set it up so they can hide behind a fucking computer program.
Sigh …
That’s the plot from the Logan’s Run TV show
In a change from the book and film, the television series had the city secretly run by a cabal of older citizens who promised Francis a life beyond the age of 30 as a city elder if he can capture the fugitives.
jesus christ. if your leaders weren’t so evil i would be sad for them.
Fuck them all, I hope they get cancer and die a slow, agonizing death.
Left needs to use LLM to counter this nonsense. Like, use LLM to patch loopholes and add traps to prevent further LLM use.
It’s not about LLM being unfit for this job, it’s more like we don’t have the manpower to defend against this mass-produced surgical sabotage.
Yup.
The greatest danger of AI, is the corporations and governments having sole control of it. That is why it is important for ordinary people to not reject AI usage, but to make it cheap and common enough that no one has to rely on the elite for access.
Be it guns, food, shelter, or knowledge, no one should have a monopoly. That is just asking to be abused.
Oh shit sorry, my bad! Thought you were replying to about a different post. Yikes, sorry again
That’s not how I meant it when 10 years ago talking about regulations being a bad thing.
I meant starting with copyright =\
“AI tool”.
I live in Russia and I’m pissed that they are making its gang in power look almost competent in comparison.
Anyone who says “regulation is bad” is attacking the problem with too blunt an instrument. It depends which regulation, who it serves, and how well it has worked and can be expected to go on working. The urge to get rid of regulations is either driven by corrupt profiteering or by an ideology that’s too crude for the real world.
Anyone who says “regulation is bad” is attacking the problem with too blunt an instrument.
I agree.
The urge to get rid of regulations is either driven by corrupt profiteering or by an ideology that’s too crude for the real world.
It might also be driven by the feeling that it hits your enemy more than it hits you, but that was back then. Now it doesn’t, because the enemy has converted their regulations into real-world power and can scrap them all and still have it.
BTW, I agree about “too crude”, actually ancap as it is itself doesn’t pretend to be anything else. That’s why I like it very much - most cases of marxism etc are directed at some imagined and idealized real world, or a miraculous solution allowing to introduce them in the wild and let them work. Ancap (just like left anarchism) explored mechanisms which can never be made 100% pure in reality, but benefit everyone when created. It’s more about designing new social systems than about ruining existing ones.
Which is why I don’t like people making an association between ancap and Ayn Rand, Ayn Rand is a fan of monopolies and hereditary oligarchy. Ancap in its pure form has no levers for an oligarchy to maintain itself. It defines finite non-human-created resources as common, so its treatment of oligarchy is no different than left anarchism’s treatment of oligarchy.
Getting back to regulations, I’ve recently had a wonderfully simple idea which doesn’t even seem that crappy. Separate all law into the constitutional part (and maybe some intermediate kind requiring longevity and not too complex) and the usual part, and scrap the latter and start anew with a bunch of referendums every 10 years. One can devise a system where representatives are elected into councils (ranked choice voting, proportional system), a few dozens of them with a few hundreds people in each, and each council decides on its own part of the laws (of course, using advice of invited lawyers and such), and then a referendum approves or rejects those projects. Where those are rejected, the process is repeated until there’s an acceptable variant.
To make the laws used in daily life simpler and more democratic. Right now malicious parties can slowly skew laws in their favor over many decades. In such a system only the popular perception and shared knowledge will survive those many decades, while the actual law will be decided upon democratically. Thus a solution to one time’s problem won’t become a problem for another time. And the legal corpus will be compact, similar to that of western countries in 1950s.
A lot of today’s problems is just legal legacy and sneakery. This way stuff that’s obsolete and stuff that has been sneaked in won’t have any effect on modern application of rights.
If it makes you feel any better, I’m pretty sure the God Father of the new right, who created the Heritage Foundation and is responsible for the existence of the project 2025 obsession with deregulation and dismantling of the current federal government, was inspired by your gang while believing he was actually saving them from communism and converting them into free market capitalists. (Except as you probably know, this idea of a free market was anything but)
PBS Documentary about Weyrich and Krieble involvement in Collapse of USSR Playing For Power (2012)
Soviet elites’ idea of power meant that.
USSR in late 1980s sort of “resurrected” the Soviet system as something kinda democratic (well, democratic centralism is not exactly that, but decisions were made, and many true words were said, and the resulting course of action those elites didn’t like), so those elites (Yeltsin was a Politburo member, a reminder) just decided to flip the board.
But yeah, I definitely think there’s a connection.
And while considering them all-powerful may be wrong, Soviet propaganda had more levels than people thought. The fact that the narrative of many of those dissidents then is now similar to the narrative of ex-Soviet elites and their allies speaks for itself.
The “visible” propaganda had different layers for kolkhozniks and for factory workers and for engineers and for artists. Everyone thought they could read between the lines, but that was too just a layer.
After USSR “collapsed”, plenty of sects and ideologies emerged, and mostly those too were defined by Soviet propaganda - from political (sincere, not like those participating in the election, but like Limonov people and Makashov people and anarchists and communists, all of them) to esoteric (I don’t even want to list all of that), and of course the church.
And now the Russian population is slowly transitioning from intoxication with that cocktail right to dissociation like with PTSD.
So why did they decide to flip the board?
Because only fools think that covert and conspiracy-minded and backstage and back alley actions are more true and sincere, or even stupider - advantageous for the weaker side. That’s exactly where smoke and mirrors work flourishes. The truest thing Soviet people had was the common public “official” set of institutions and rules, no matter how disgusting it was. By flipping the board they removed it, and the masses had no common point of reality anymore.
So, why did I write this - yes. I think that’s what these people are doing in the USA, except the many-layered genius-class propaganda system is not existent there, but a few companies have been working hard for 20 years to create some kind of replacement.
rimu@piefed.social 1 day ago
Imagine a junior dev called "Big Balls" starting up Claude Code and telling it "Hey I need you to make this app great, remove all unnecessary code" and then just accepting whatever it proposes.
Literally vibe coding a country.
Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Because DOGE is still running on Elon Musk’s strategy of “move fast, break things, and don’t fix anything until shit’s on fire”. People won’t be dying in concentration camps because of DOGE, they’ll just be homeless and probably half-dead of starvation (because of the repeal of the PFDA).
MangoCats@feddit.it 1 day ago
The Netherlands are 20 years ahead of the US in this respect: en.wikipedia.org/…/Dutch_childcare_benefits_scand…