Subtitle gang, always and forever.
Disgrace to you disgrace to your family disgrace to your cow
Submitted 1 day ago by hmmm@sh.itjust.works to animemes@ani.social
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tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Bad VA in a language I don’t speak is still better than a good dub in most cases for me. I can separate the voice acting from reality and make it part of the character.
Bad VA in English is just so noticeable. Like, I’m not that good at hearing intent in Japanese, other than obvious emotion, but with English it often sounds like they’re trying to sound like an animated character.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 day ago
So true. Related: I don’t read Japanese, so it’s usually English translations for manga, but whenever I read manga in my native language it just reads way to much like comics for grade schoolers with cringy dialogue - this might very well be the same if I read it in English if I was a native English speaker, but I’m not, so I’m enjoying that degree of separation that shields me from truly knowing how cringe a lot of manga is.
wirelesswire@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I’ll say it: I prefer dubbed over subbed. English voice acting has been getting much better over the past several years (when studios want to pay for it, at least), and honestly, I get tired of reading all the subtitles in every show I watch. That said, I still watch more subbed than dubbed, since it’s more available.
Side note - sub watchers who think they’re superior need to get over themselves. Let people enjoy things however they want. Yes, I know this is a meme, but I’ve also met plenty who seriously think this way.
hmmm@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Side note - sub watchers who think they’re superior need to get over themselves. Let people enjoy things however they want. Yes, I know this is a meme, but I’ve also met plenty who seriously think this way.
OK but I am this way. (I have Superiority Complex 😔)
Chronographs@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
At a certain point, it feels like they’re reusing the same voice actors, over and over and over again, in everything. It all starts blending together. So for some things, I’ll switch to sub (usually just if I’m getting impatient with a release schedule and the sub is finished already)
wirelesswire@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yeah, that can be an issue. It’s likely due to studios not paying much for Eng VA work, so the talent pool is small.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I get tired of reading all the subtitles in every show I watch
Happens unconsciously for me
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Aggretsuko has a great English dub 😙👌
Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 day ago
laughs in light novel
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 day ago
ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I watch Dubbed with subtitles. Come at me.
WandowsVista@lemmy.world 1 day ago
StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah I can’t always separate sounds. I need my subs.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I feel you. I’ve always preferred subs. There’s just so much missing in the dubs. The tone of voice and such never translates for some reason. (I’m not sure it has to be that way. If the voice actors just… did a better job of preserving how the original language emoted, and the people overseeing them let them do a better job, then I’d imagine dubs could be fine.)
I’m really into Critical Role lately and all of the folks on Critical Role are voice actors, and most of them do a lot of anime. Liam O’Brien voiced Gaara in the English dubbed Naruto, for instance. And I feel a little bad because I consider myself to be fans of all the Critical Role folks, and I love the voices they use in Critical Role, but god I can’t stand dubbed anime. Even roles they play. Given that they’re great in Critical Role and terrible in anime, I have to imagine there’s some reason out of their control why dubs just can’t be “good”.
The other thing about all this. I don’t tend to “just” watch anime these days. I put anime on while I’m doing other things. But I can’t read subs and do other things at the same time. The result of all that is mostly that I watch less anime than I used to. I spend more of my time watching stuff that is natively in English that I can most-listen-to and glance at every few minutes. (Like Critical Role. Sorry, I didn’t mean this post to end up being an ad for Critical Role. Lol.)
But when I watch anime, I still watch it subbed because I can’t stand dubs.
Speaking of which, it’s high time I watch some anime. (But I can’t right now because I’m trying to at least finish campaign 2 of… wait for it… Critical Role before they start campaign 4.)
JayGray91@piefed.social 1 day ago
The other thing about all this. I don't tend to "just" watch
anime these days. I put anime on while I'm doing other
things. But I can't read subs and do other things at the
same time. The result of all that is mostly that I watch
less anime than I used to. I spend more of my time
watching St that is natively in English thatIcan most-
listen-to and glance at every few minutes. (hey that's me too. i put up videos I'm slightly interested in to be noise and sometimes pay attention to, so it has to be English for me.
it's basically tradition now for me to just watch anime subbed.
so no anime in that role. besides I'd like to pay more attention to anime most of the time.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 day ago
I just don’t want to listen to English voice actors all the time, and I like that degree of separation of listening to anime dialogue in a language that’s not native to me - it shields me from truly knowing how cringe a lot of anime dialogue is.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 day ago
I usually watch both and pick the one with the better voices!
orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. English dubs haven’t been dogshit for a while, so why would new viewers go out of their way to listen to the japanese dhb when there’s a perfectly good english dub? Reading subs was always a thing of necessity, and continuing to do so’s just a force of habit for me.
monogram@feddit.nl 1 day ago
Dub is easier to follow when you’re eating noodles 🍜
hmmm@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Skill Issue Honestly never had problem while eating hell even while playing board game.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Came here to post this. Dubs if I’m eating, subs if I’m not.
fayoh@sopuli.xyz 23 hours ago
Can’t even make out dialogue in my native language in a quiet room sometimes. Not just in action scenes, why are ambient sounds louder than the dialogue? 😤
It’s interesting what you get used to. My wife is from a country with a strong dubbing culture and where I’m from all foreign films were always subbed.
She finds the subtitles distracting, whereas I barely register them and read almost subconsciously.
Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Subs are always most seeded on nyaa, the only leaderboard that matters.
remon@ani.social 1 day ago
Dual audio versions constantly have more seeds than jap audio only version. Even for shows where the dual audio versions is released later.
shani66@ani.social 1 day ago
The only time to watch dubs is when they’ve gone all out on the visuals.
mkmusic@torishiro.com 1 day ago
@hmmm@sh.itjust.works i can now confirm that i am better than most americans... i have a higher grade than that :ablobcatheartbroken:
@animemes@ani.socialRightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think the only time I watch an anime dubbed is if I expect it to be action heavy and I want to see the action instead of the subtitles.
Mecha anime, as an example. I want to see the robots and explosions, not the bottom 4th of the screen.
But nearly every other anime, I just watch it subbed. Also, if I start in dub and I find the character voices annoying, I switch to sub.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
I usually just watch dubs anymore, but only because I’ll browse my phone sometimes while I watch a show. Smartphones ruined watching subs.
Chronographs@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Every time I’ve tried a dub it’s like nails on chalkboard, and its always very awkward sounding as they try to time it to the cadence of the japanese. Add to that the liberties taken with the dub translation and it’s just a hard no. Just stop trying to do other shit and pay attention to what you’re watching it’s not that hard
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
For me, the performance of the main voice actors is THE single most important moment-to-moment element in how an anime hits. Shows with pretty poor animation can be rescued by amazing VA performances, but even the best animation can’t save a show if the acting doesn’t land right.
And in dubs, the voice acting almost never reaches the quality of the original.
The voice actors usually sound like they are just reading a script alone in a box, with no proper context of the emotional setting or tone, or awareness of who they are saying it to, or feeling that they care about the words. The delivery is flat at times it should be spirited, or dialled to 100 at times where it should be nuanced.
Even in the cases where dubs are actually competent (Ghibli movies, as a good example) the process still introduces changes. The original casting directors chose the actors they did for a reason, and it’s those people whose performances I want to hear.
And this isn’t just true for anime, it’s true for all foreign films and shows. Just let me have it the way it originally was.
Chronographs@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yeah, also as I understand it the original seiyuus are getting direction from whoever directed the show vs the dubbing work outsourced to a dubbing studio