Microsoft Came to Bargain: Use OneDrive for Device Backup, Opt into Loyalty Program and Use Their Products Till You Earn 1000 Points or Pay $30 and They Might Give You Security Updates till Oct 2026.

Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2025/06/24/stay-secure-with-windows-11-copilot-pcs-and-windows-365-before-support-ends-for-windows-10/

An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:

Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost…

Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points

Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).

Once you select an option and follow the on-screen steps, your PC will automatically be enrolled. ESU coverage for personal devices runs from Oct. 15, 2025, through Oct. 13, 2026. Starting today, the enrollment wizard is available in the Windows Insider Program and will begin rolling out as an option to Windows 10 customers in July, with broad availability expected by mid-August

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Manticore@lemmy.nz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
ESU is inherently bullshit. So they’re going to make security upgrades for the OS millions of people are using, but you only get them if you pay? Even though they’re committing dev time to make and deploy them?

What a gift. Either you’re paying ESU and there’s no dev work (rip off grift) or it’s literally a ‘protection fee’ for dev work they’re doing anyway (nyeehhh nice PC ye got there, be a shame if we extorted you for it)

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j0ester@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Dormammu! I’ve come to bargain.

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Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Pretty sure most people are just looking forward to Windows no longer begging to reboot or just doing it when you turn your back for two seconds.

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01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I didn’t realize they provide security update to Fedora lol

They’re scramble hard right now.

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Cthulhu_Breakfast@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Or just switch to Linux and run windows on a virtual machine?!

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Pogi_Americano@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I use Linux, it’s FREE!

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- 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Windows Homs is free, too.
  
  But here’s the thing that many people (not you) don’t understand. Windows Home is free, as in beer. Linux is free, as in speech, AND free, as in beer.
  
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  - Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Windows Home isn’t free (legally), you can’t just install it and have a valid license available without paying money. Most people think Windows is free because you’re paying for the license when you buy a prebuilt, you’re just not seeing the line item cost.
    
    But either way, Home is a trash fire. At least Pro lets you control more of the annoying aspects of the OS. Home you’re just opening up for whatever MS wants to shove down your throat. And even then, just run linux. That’s actually free, and a better experience.
    
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vala@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Windows is just a gotcha game now lmao

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Pirate@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I wish to compliment Microsoft of accurately prophesying that Windows 10 would be my last windows.

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Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Getting a discount to hand over your data into their cloud so they can train their AIs on it? And hold you hostage in case you dare to switch the OS?

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- RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  technically you don’t have to put any data in there we just have to have it enabled
  
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  - 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Once enabled as your PC’s backup solution provider from the settings miniapp, it will backup the data on the PC. So, you can’t only enable it.
    
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- DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Classic enshittification, they’re stealing from Google this should be copyright stricken.
  
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corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

till

'til

FTLoG

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- DarthFreyr@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  “Till” is completely valid synonym of until. “'Til” is an informal contraction (and was probably meant to be the actual word “till”). If you’re gonna be aggressively prescriptive, at least pick an actual battlefield instead of attacking innocent folks.
  
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j4yt33@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Microsoft can die in a fire

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eli_shitney@hilariouschaos.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
no thanks microsoft

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blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This stinks of their enterprise practices. They are masters of creating extremely confusing plans for pricing that involve bundling, discounts for various combinations, etc. In the end, you get a fat ass bill at the end of every month. When you ask them to explain it, they will say that this component was generated by one team, another by a different…

You will never get a straight answer and if you do, it will take weeks. By then you have another bill and you get to start all over.

I am so over Microsoft and their bullshit. I don’t use any of their shit at home and I actively remove anything I can of theirs at work. Punting Defender out of our environment was my best day ever.

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- bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  So all your users are working on Macs or Linux? That’s an impressive accomplishment for an enterprise scale work environment.
  
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  - atticus88th@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It was easier for our 500+ employees when our CFO pointed out that its either switch to Linux and have a learning curve or see some of your coworkers, maybe even yourself be laid off. We actually saved so much money dumping Microsoft products that we were able to hire tech ambassadors to help the older folks get setup with the new software.
    
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- tynansdtm@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What did you replace Defender with?
  
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  - blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    SentinelOne
    
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homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
“Meta launches new sponsor hand-branding app”

Me: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

“Gmail uses AI to contact debt collectors when it looks like you may not pay on time.”

Me: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

“Microsoft randomly kills 100 users’ children per day until demands are met”

Me: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Me: Image

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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
eat shit and maybe I’ll consider watching you eat more.

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CatZoomies@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I switched to Linux last year. I’m just a teacher but I’ve got pretty good techy skills having grown up in the late 80s with computers. Switching to Linux gave me some small problems at first, but everything works just fine for me. My husband’s been pretty curious seeing me have fun with it and mess around on my computer more. Maybe I’ll get him to switch one day too! 🙃

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RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How about “fuck you”?

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Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Reads this on his iOS phone

While playing modern games on fedora workstation 42

While all my backups and containers run on a synology nas

with a literal blank 2nd hard drive that used to have windows 10 on it but now has nothing

while his computer illiterate wife uses her hp laptop just fine with linux

Ya… Go f yourself Microsoft. You used to be the cool kid in town. Now you’re trash.
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- Quazatron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m sorry to disagree. I’ve been using Microsoft crap since the days where you had to free up memory in config.sys to load Novell Netware drivers, and never has Microsoft been the cool kid in town. It was always the fat bastard bully kid that would beat and extort the other kids.
  
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  - Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    LOL
    
    I’ve been using it that long too, and I suppose you’re right.
    
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reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Holding security updates hostage is a sicko business strategy. I hope the EU sues them for it.

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- RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  they’re deprecating the product, this is pretty normal
  
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- lud@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Windows has always done this and so do many others. I very much doubt that the EU would fine Microsoft for it. Since when was extended support against EU regulation?
  
  Companies like redhat do the same thing for end of life software: access.redhat.com/articles/rhel-eus
  
  I’m not familiar with Suse but it looks like they pretty much do the same thing: www.suse.com/…/long-term-service-pack-support/.
  
  Ubuntu too: ubuntu.com/security/esm
  
  Of course IBM: www.ibm.com/…/ibm-security-extended-support
  
  And many others.
  
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- Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Microsoft gonna send someone to smash your kneecaps for talking like this. They are shaking their nice guy image and going full gangster pimp.
  
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Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
When I see stories like this, what annoys me the most, is that people are still dumb enough to use Microsoft, and proprietary software in general.

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- MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s not because they’re dumb, it’s because it’s easy.
  
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- bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Calling people dumb for using an insanely popular product is pretty unnecessary. Some grandma just playing solitaire on her old PC that she uses to pay bills and whatnot on and you walk by, “you dumbass, use Linux instead!”
  
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  - Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes, because some grandma is exactly the kind of people I meant. /s
    
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Libra@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yeah, Microsoft came to bargain, but I came to flip 'em the bird cause I already switched to linux. Image

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FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
So windows 10 isn’t EOL’d in October 2025 after all.

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- bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They’ve always said that extended support would be available. It’s like this with every single enterprise product. Red Hat Linux, VMware, etc all do it.
  
  I’m all for circle jerking against Microsoft, they fucking suck. But this particular example is just such a dumb thing to get on a soapbox about. Businesses can’t be expected to indefinitely support a piece of technology for free. Some Linux distros can do it because people volunteer their time and skills to do so. But that isn’t feasible for a business to just pay dozens of developers to continuously work on a product that isn’t actively pulling in revenue.
  
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  - FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Businesses can’t be expected to indefinitely support a piece of technology for free.
    
    Of course not but they themselves announced long ago that win10 will be EOL’d in October 2025. Then later they announced that you can buy extra support for plenty and increasing amounts of money. And now this.
    
    Though even longer ago they announced that win10 will be the last windows ever.
    
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- Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It is, u less you pay more
  
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Pro@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
They want your data, your money and your PC.

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- Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But hey, you get 1000 … “Points”?
  
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  - Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You have to spend 1000 points to get the updates.
    
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