Social nuke

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• iii@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Everybody privately shit-talks everybody

  That’s not the case 😕

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  • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes it is.

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    • iii@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Perhaps you’re in a not so lovely social bubble?

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    • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It only takes one example to refute a universal claim.

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    • Pudutr0n@feddit.cl ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not really.

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• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oooh, edgy. Few problems:

  List of logical fallacies

  1. Hasty Generalization

  “Everybody privately shit-talks everybody.” Assumes a universal truth based on limited or anecdotal experience. Not everyone engages in this behavior

  2. False Premise

  “The phone always listens to it and records it.” This is factually untrue for most users and makes the argument invalid from the start. The conclusion based on this premise (a hack turning that into texts) relies on a false understanding of technology.

  3. Slippery Slope (Implied)

  “A viral hack that turns all this shit-talking into texts.”

  Implied assumption: this will definitely go viral and cause massive disruption. It assumes a cascade of dramatic consequences without evidence.

  4. Appeal to Cynicism

  “Everybody privately shit-talks everybody.” Uses an exaggeratedly negative view of human nature as a foundation to justify or normalize antisocial behavior.

  5. Moral Equivalence

  By implying that since everyone does it, exposing it via a viral hack is just revealing the “truth” and therefore not really unethical, it downplays the maliciousness of the hypothetical hack.

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  • Witchfire@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I got BINGO! What do I win?

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  • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Your criticisms are very weak. Sorry.

    Instead of looking for ways to defeat me you should just go with it. For example you could consider what the societal upheaval would look like. How would we recover. What growth would it inspire etc.

    I mean, really. What difference to my point would 99% shit-talkers vs 100% make?

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No one is looking to “defeat” you.

      Accepting and internalising it when someone explains you’re wrong about something, results in two people being right about something, not a “winner” and a “loser”.

      Changing your mind is not losing.

      We can still have a discussion about your hypothetical, after.

      But you’ve walked in with a bunch of fallacies and in response to having them corrected, turned so abrasive, that your behaviour and world view is now the only thing anyone is interested in talking about.

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• tkk13909@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lmao fucking edgelord

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  • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What is your problem?

    I present a perfectly tasty and chewable bit of speculation and you people just react with… the usual.

    Nevermind.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m fairly certain they are commenting on your behaviour in this thread overrall.

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• jeffw@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Your phone isn’t recording you, you’re just more predictable than you think.

  washingtonpost.com/…/phone-listening-target-ads-i…

  forbes.com/…/of-course-your-phone-is-listening-to…

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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Your phone is in fact listening. Thats proven by a whistleblower from apple. But it doesnt need to, youre correct on that point.

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    • hedgehog@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      proven by a whistleblower from apple

      Assuming you have an iPhone. And even then, the whistleblower you’re referencing was part of a team who reviewed utterances by users with the “Hey Siri” wake word feature enabled. If you had Siri disabled entirely or had the wake word feature disabled, you weren’t impacted at all.

      This may have been limited to impacting only users who also had some option like “Improve Siri and Dictation” enabled, but it’s not clear. Today, the Privacy Policy explicitly says that Apple can have employees review your interactions with Siri and Dictation (my understanding is the reason for the settlement is that they were not explicit that human review was occurring). I strongly recommend disabling that setting, particularly if you have a wake word enabled.

      If you have wake words enabled on your phone or device, your phone has to listen to be able to react to them. At that point, of course the phone is listening. Whether it’s sending the info back somewhere is a different story, and there isn’t any evidence that I’m aware of that any major phone company does this.

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    • jeffw@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Darn, someone else beat me to it, but as they said, this was largely debunked. We already knew that data is collected every time you say “Siri”. That’s not the same as constant and passive data collection without activation.

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  • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ignore your own experience, trust the authorities.

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• remon@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So basically the plot of the South Park troll trace arc in season 20.

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  • hypnicjerk@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    community did it too

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  • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hmm. I’m not familiar. I’ll check it out. Thanks.

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• Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I will never understand trolls

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• socsa@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  OP is telling on themselves here

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• redsunrise@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  hey my dude, you have an interesting post history. what inspires your posts? care to share your story?

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  • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am inspired to post by the prospect of discussing weird interesting stuff. I love doing that.

    Lots of fishing involved tho.

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• rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Interesting. A few comments and criticisms on the details. Zero replies about my actual point. And lots of downvotes.

  They are afraid.

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  • 30p87@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “It’s crazy that 1+1 = 3”
    “No, it isn’t.” “Why are you criticizing the DETAILS? Reply to my point!”

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    • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What do you call somebody who insists upon ignoring the forest, preferring to closely examine the bark on a single tree?

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  • iglou@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Afraid of what? Replying to what point? Your “shower thought” (lmao) is just a messy thought process of which every single step is based on nothing.

    Why would we waste energy discussing consequences of events that will never happen?

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    • rainrain@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it’s quite plausible actually. It’s just a nice hack away.

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• last_philosopher@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That would require some considerable effort to pull off.

  Something far more plausible: a bug in zoom that reverses the camera and/or microphone button functionality.

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