Jack Dorsey is as irrelevant as Elon Musk. They can go fuck themselves like every other Technocrat.
Elon Musk, Jack Dorsey Call For Abolition Of All Intellectual Property Laws, Arguing There Are 'Much Greater Models To Pay Creators'
Submitted 4 days ago by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.world
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-jack-dorsey-call-183020816.html
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just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 days ago
primemagnus@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I first read that as technorat and now I don’t know if I want to correct it in my brain
antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
In an ideal society, IP laws would definitely not exist. The idea by itself is inarguably desirable.
But, more practically, IP laws should be abolished or reformed to accommodate the needs of the average creator and the average consumer. The two people who proposed this change are not average creators in the slightest, they’re looking to benefit primarily their own class, the consequences for the other 99.99% are irrelevant.
A reform of this type should start at the very least with small and realistic steps. Can we e.g. reduce the absurd duration of copyright protection (author’s life + 70 years)? Reducing it by just 20-30 years would be an incredible boon to human culture, and it would have zero serious negative consequences.
But they only talk about it in the most vague terms, no details or anything, and Dorsey doesn’t seem to have actually described any of those other ways of compensation. They’re just greedy megalomaniacs throwing ideas around.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Dorsey doesn’t seem to have actually described any of those other ways of compensation
Let me guess, blockchain!
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
Wasn’t blockchain the griffty buzzword years ago? We have all new grifts now
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
If you think this means all the sudden you too can pirate without consequences: lol keep dreaming serf
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 days ago
Much greater models
It’s Musk, so the new model is simply “the more money you have, the more you receive”
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Like, I agree. But we all know that he’s not saying this out of the goodness of his heart. Completely removing any sort of IP laws right now would mean tech billionaires like him get free reign training AI models… And more importantly, making money with AI models.
Glitchvid@lemmy.world 3 days ago
IP law need overhauling, but these are the last people (aside from Disney et al) I’d trust to draft the new ones.
arararagi@ani.social 3 days ago
It’s so convenient how they only got this opinion after AI became mainstream.
Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Elon certainly talks a good line, but his actions don’t really follow. Like, I agree with this, eliminating intellectual property would be great. I am sure that whatever actions he tries in regards to this won’t actually follow through and will instead somehow be twisted to benefit him at the cost of others.
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Can’t wait for the Square, Xhitter, and SpaceX code and blueprint leaks.
Dultas@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Is that better model “exposure”?
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 days ago
The hilarious thing is you know that Rickey Rats or HBO Minimal or Netflops wouldn’t agree… unless it doesn’t apply to them and their IP.
resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Get rid of your silly protections and let Musky’s AI decide how much to pay you (if anything).
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 days ago
He would just replace 95% of artists with AI, then tell them he’s hiring for tesla for ultra-hardcore work times.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
I find this surprising, because frankly I agree.
I don’t know much about Dorsey, but in Musk’s case, I think this is another case of him espousing a good idea he’d never actually honor.
I think that anyone should be able to make movies with Mickey Mouse and no one should need to license code. But I suspect that like with free expression, these are values most proponents only like when it’s benefiting them.
Also, as for the alternatives to support creatives, I would say start with universal services. Universal housing, universal healthcare, universal education, universal food. We would have so much more art if we recognized that no one should have to “earn” their survival. Once that’s guaranteed – and abolish billionaires and extreme wealth inequality too – I think discussions over how to support creatives would take place from a much more favorable starting point.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It is so cute that you are taking them at their word.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
I specifically said I wasn’t.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The debate has drawn a mixed bag of reactions. Tech evangelist Chris Messina supported Dorsey’s stance. He wrote on BlueSky social, “Jack has a point" as “Automated IP fines/3-strike rules for AI infringement may become the substitute for putting poor people in jail for cannabis possession.”
Yeah, good thing that’s not still happening or anything…
/s
RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
China doesn’t care about copyright anyway.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 days ago
„Hey let‘s destroy this thing! It’s in my way and it‘s not perfect anyway!“
Hearing a lot of that rhetoric being thrown around lately. Especially by elites. It‘s like everyone suddenly wants to destroy things left and right, thinking it‘s in the way of something greater. What that something greater is? Not their concern.
I guess when your only tool is a hammer every problem really starts to look like a nail.
beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 4 days ago
Oh, the things I’m going to create under the X logo…
Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 days ago
Eww it never feels right to align with them on an issue.
Give us free rein over human culture. Our modern mythos, legend, and literature need not be deprived from public use due to capitalistic ownership.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
All your bases belong to them
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
interesting, I do wonder how movie studios /streaming services will survive that. Some independent creators already mostly survive off commissions so would potentially be able to survive. Microsoft, Nintendo, adobe and Sony can get fucked.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You wanna cuck small businesses and creators? Because I highly doubt these two guys have a better model. IP sucks, but it just needs to be dialed back from Disney’s corruption to a reasonable amount like 5-15 years. Not 75 years after the creators death like wtf with more shenanigans to extend it. Absolutely not. Like all things, IP and copyright laws are fucked because Corporations fucked them with lobbyists. If you see trouble, theres a corpo behind it.