I don’t doubt that it’s possible, but it would cost $7,000 or some shit.
A 'US-Made iPhone' Is Pure Fantasy
Submitted 11 months ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.404media.co/a-us-made-iphone-is-pure-fantasy/
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libra00@lemmy.world 11 months ago
lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
cerement@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
not to mention the reason we eagerly off-shored electronics fabrication in the first place is because it’s a toxic nightmare
BlindFrog@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Toxic as in workplace relations or toxic as in environmental effects? Or some other third meaning?
cerement@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
environmental effects
Fortune article last year just talked about water and power in just the chip sector: The chip industry’s dirty little secret: It’s very dirty
“At Intel’s Arizona campus, where the new facilities are still unfinished, the company already emits about two tons of hazardous air pollutants quarterly.”
lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Yes, I can hear you Clem Fandango
Windex007@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Steven
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Good luck getting all the materials needed for that now that China has stopped exports to the US.
IPhone 17:
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If they slap an Apple logo on it the gullible sheep would buy it anyway.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
I’d looooove a return of the brick phone. Modern phones feel small and dainty in my giant hands. Meanwhile, battery life absolutely sucks. I’d love a modern brick phone that does calls, text and nothing else. And a battery life of a fulm week.
marlowe221@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ll take my Motorola Razr back from the early 00s.
Whether I do Captain Kirk impressions with it in the privacy of my own home is my business…
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Only $4000 for the entry model. That how much is costs once the tariffs on the semiconductors has been covered, the salaries high enough to motivate people to willingly work the assembly lines now that immigrant workers are gone, and the markup needed to cover the cost of completely creating an entire supply chain from scratch as well as paying back the insane debt that results from the outrageous high risk investments this would require and that frankly no investor would want to touch with a 10 foot pole.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
That is before Apple levels of profit added on, right? Otherwise that seems a bit low.
besselj@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Physical keys and what looks like a headphone jack? Seems like an upgrade
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 11 months ago
That would be the first iPhone I’d actually buy.
Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 11 months ago
$76.999 price will surely stop you.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 11 months ago
people screwing in little, little screws
it’s going to be automated
Sure that’s not automated yet?
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Nope, I’ve long worked in designing for North American electronics manufacturing, it’s still manual. We just outsource as many of those sub assemblies as possible to cheaper countries and design things with as few fasteners as possible.
That really is the least of the worries, there just isn’t the manufacturing infrastructure for all the raw material and individual parts, manufacturing those parts just isn’t feasible to do at a reasonable cost or schedule outside of Asia. China is still popular not due to cost, they are no longer cheapest, but because they have the infrastructure in place.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Apparently jobs like that, which require fine motor skills, are extremely difficult to automate.
thefartographer@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Use the same cameras and AI that Musk said were gonna fully automate Tesla
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Weird. Not like pcb fabs haven’t been doing that for ages. And not necessarily the solder flood type chip mounts either.
besselj@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
It’s all computer!
singletona@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m genuinely surprised Trump killed the CHIPS act, when he could’ve let that roll through and taken credit for it as the whole POINT of that was to improve US manufacturing.
Also reintroduce the build back better with whatever re-branding.
If he were truly interested in american manufacturing he’d have gone all in on these.
But no. he wants company owners and worldl eaders to come to him and beg for exemptions.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Even if he had gone all in on manufacturing, it’s not like a supply network of industrial goods can be built in a day. Hell, it’s hard to build that in a 4-year term. Trump is virtue signalling while at the same time jeopardizing any chance America had of reshoring.
It’s honestly infuriating me how big projects needed to improve our infrastructure take years and years to complete, when from one administration to the next, those same projects can be cancelled.
It takes multiple presidencies to build something good, and it takes one to tear it all down.
I see now the benefits of China’s 5 year plans with how well organized they can control their economy.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 11 months ago
I’d have to look into it more, but my gut tells me the CHIPS act & ‘Build Back Better’ was filled to the brim with pork & bullshit. You’d have to parse through, line by line, and take out all the shit. And hope all the changes get passed & implemented, and of course you’re still touting the worthless name of a project that your people hate that you didn’t even create. Or just blindly trust your opponent’s judgment calls & let it roll through, based on “just trust me, bro”. Nooooo thank you. Why bother?
With stuff like this, it tends to be easier & more expedient to take it behind the shed & shoot it. Replace it with your distinctly different, branded equivalent.
However. If this is true, it appears that Trump didn’t fully raze the CHIPS act & merely revamped it, is taking credit for it. Like you said. CHIPS must have been pretty true to cause.
singletona@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh I’m sure there was pork there, but to just dismissi t out of hand is kinda disengenouls especially when all the politicians (mostly republican) that voted against it tried snapping up credit come time for the ribbon cutting and new construction to aged infrastructure.
Granted Manchan and Senna opposed the build back better initiative and both were explicitely paid off by fossil fuel industry wonks… And i figure if they’re in opposition, ‘I want it even more out of sheer fucking spite to you greedy assholes that make money killing the planet my niece is going to have to live in.’
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m surprised that people like you are still surprised at what Trump does.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Understanding Trump is simple: he’s a narcissist. For example, if the CHIPS act succeeds, Biden gets credit, so it’s bad. It’s really quite simple.
singletona@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And what is THAT supposed to be?
I’ve been screaming about the republicans since they made it clear they were going for pure obstructionism with Obama.
IonAddis@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m not surprised.
The name of the game here is to destroy America, not build it up. (Russia wants a USSR-style fall of America. The Cold War never ended for them.) And Trump wants to stay out of jail. Everything you see Trump or his admin doing can be attributed to those two things. Destroying America, or keeping himself out of Jail.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Eh, I think it’s more that Trump wants attention. The CHIPS act is bad because Biden gets credit for it, not Trump. Tariffs are good because Trump gets to force other countries to come to the US to negotiate with him. Whether the deal at the end is good or bad is irrelevant, what matters is that Trump’s name is in the news and attached to those deals.
Trump isn’t going to jail, so I highly doubt he cares much about avoiding it. He mostly cares about people talking about him, and it’s working.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As a European I fully support comrade Trump in his successful endeavor of destroying the imperialist and fascist US state.
moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Trump is a personality cult. It’s not rational and whatever. It’s about him and always has been.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 11 months ago
He wants to get rid of everything associated with bEYEden and also wants to stick it to CHAIna.