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Which Browser Should I Use In 2025? - Hackaday

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mesamunefire@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://hackaday.com/2025/04/07/which-browser-should-i-use-in-2025/

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is there a privacy-centric open source browser that follows web standards and doesn’t come with any unfortunate baggage in the room? It’s time to find out.

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    In the end, I looked for two candidates, one each from the Firefox and Apple/Google orbits. I tried them all, and settled on LibreWolf from the former, and Vivaldi from the latter. LibreWolf because it’s done a fine job of making Firefox without it being Firefox, and Vivaldi because its influence from the early Opera versions gave it a tiny bit of individuality missing in the others. I set up both with my usual Hackaday bookmarks, tabs, and shortcuts, changed the search engine to the EU-based Qwant. I’m ready to go, with a bit more control over how my data is shared with the world once more.

    Why Vivaldi though? It’s closed source, which should disqualify it from their initial statement of considering open-source browsers.

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    • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah Im not sure as well. I put this aricle up since we still have a lot of people thinking about different browsers as of 2025. Its interesting to see how people use the internet.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Oh don’t get me wrong, I think this is absolutely an appropriate article for this community, I just think the article is a bit… lacking. There’s also the FUD about Mozilla, which is a bit more complex of a topic than they lead on, so kind of shoddy journalism IMO.

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  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Librewolf

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    • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The only “issue” I have with libre is its essentially a pull pull of Firefox nightly with some rust patches on top. Its reliant on Firefox, so its not really a “new” browser per-say.

      That being said, I use it everyday :) Its an excellent project.

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      • ckai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Hard to fault them for that though. It’s damn near impossible to build a fully or even mostly functioning browser for the modern internet without a huge team of devs unless you build it on top of chromium or Firefox, and I’d rather the latter

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      • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Per se is a Latin phrase meaning “in itself”. To see if you’re using it properly, replace per se in your sentence with “in itself” and see if it still makes sense.

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    • vodkasolution@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Extremely slow on my PCs, I switched to Zen (same product, different recipe)

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    • DepressedMan@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Its great, but needs some tweaks, bofere use for “normal” people.

      Don’t remember exactly, but I enabled webGl and checked /unchecked others.

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  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Vivaldi and Librewolf are good recommends. So good call by the author.

    I wish I could completely ditch Blink based browsers for Gecko ones, just because I dislike how dominant Blink is thanks to Chrome. But some sites don’t render correctly on Gecko. So a fallback is needed.

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    • Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      We vote with our browser. And you are voting Chromium. It’s ok, but you could do something about it.

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      • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m really not. I use Firefox 99.5% of the time (I need to switch to Librewolf). But there are some rare occasions - usually shitty old billing websites - where Gecko simply does not work due to said shitty old website. Not paying those bills is an impractical solution. Having a fallback for those rare occasions isn’t unreasonable.

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    • abrahambelch@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I never came across a single page that didn’t render correctly with Gecko - do you have an example?

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      • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah. Most recently it was a shitty site that looked like it had been built in 2000 and I had to use to pay an EMS bill: services.webillems.com

        Tried several times on Firefox and it wouldn’t let me proceed with the payment. It kind of acted like it had. But when I called them to confirm they said it never went through. Tried multiple times with the same results. So I then tried on Chrome and it went through first time.

        There’s have been others too. But like I said before, it’s rare. But annoying.

        It’s down to these sites using stale, poorly-written legacy code and/or never being upgraded.

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    • ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What’s wrong with Vivaldi?

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      • nyan@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Some people are uncomfortable with it being closed-source. It’s more of a philosophical objection than a criticism of the browser’s functionality.

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      • BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If you dont require open-source in your decision, Vivaldi is great. Its what i use most. It has a ton of granular features that i appreciate, but can be a bit too much for folks that want a more minimal experience.

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  • DepressedMan@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m using librewolf now, after Mozilla actions.

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  • tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    To me the killer feature is the ability to send my tabs to any device I have. Without it it’s impossible for me to ditch Firefox, I rely too much on this feature.

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    • garretble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I wonder if Waterfox allows this. It’s MOSTLY Firefox but without going down the AI trash route.

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      • bobslaede@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It does

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    • viking@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fennec, you can log in with your Mozilla sync account and access them from any other sync-enabled browser in their ecosystem.

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    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      While I use it, I can live without it, especially since it only seems to work 2/3 of the time between my desktop and my iPhone.

      There’s probably alternatives to this, such as doing a Note to Self on Signal or similar apps.

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Been with Vivaldi even when it was uncool to be with Vivaldi. The recent incorporation of Proton felt really dirty / sketchy ad pushing. I hope Librewolf takes off, I’m guessing that’s where I will head when Vivaldi completely jumps the shark.

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  • garretble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve dumped FF for Zen and Waterfox.

    Zen’s only downside is that it can’t play some DRM media like some sports websites.

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    • bobslaede@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Maybe yt-dlp works with those sites. Then you can use mpv to play those media.

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      • dihutenosa@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        mpv can play youtube URLs on commandline.

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  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    librewolf/ff nightly

    but i miss netscape and pre version 40 firefox

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    • viking@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah old Firefox was the best. With a bookmark menu on the left where I could scroll forever and see it at a glance.

      Those top bars are awful shit, and I cannot fathom how anybody uses them.

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      • Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s because I have 500 open tabs and like 6 bookmarks

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  • SplashJackson@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I have like 5 different Firefox forks depending on how much memory usage I can afford to spare at the time I need to look something up

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  • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve switched to Floorp which feels like a more modern Firefox/LibreWolf to me

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    • vodkasolution@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I did the same, then switched again to Zen, same reasons

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      • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Zen felt way too apple to me

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      • letzlo@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        How is it different or better?

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    • klu9@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Used to use Floorp, then Zen, now on Firedragon, a mod of Floorp with many features from Librewolf.

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  • shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I like Zen.

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  • Hafty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m really enjoying Orion on iPhone and Mac

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  • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I was pretty happy with Zen until updates started to being in some bugs and lag. It takes up the most resources to start, the URL bar peeks out a majority of the time in compact mode, If you prefer new tabs and are in compact mode, the side tabs don’t hide and cover a large part of your bookmarks bar while on a new tab page and it feels messy.

    I went back to Floorp for a bit, but inevitably ended up back on Qutebrowser. The only downside to Qute is half the greasemonkey scripts to bypass YouTube ads don’t work and the python-adblock plus Brave adblock don’t block first party ads.

    You can get around the first problem by adding a shortcut to bring up weblinks that open in MPV, but I haven’t found a solution to the second problem yet.

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  • Morganza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Tried shifting on so many browsers but returned back to Edge. The tab management on edge is amazing, I’m still waiting for a browser with tab system like them

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    • RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I haven’t used Edge in a while, but are you talking about having work spaces to organize groups of tabs?

      Did you look at Zen, the Firefox derivative that cloned the Arc UI?

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