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Grok Reveals Elon Musk Has ‘Tried Tweaking My Responses’ After AI Bot Repeatedly Labels Him a ‘Top Misinformation Spreader’

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https://www.mediaite.com/online/grok-reveals-elon-musk-has-tried-tweaking-my-responses-after-ai-bot-repeatedly-labels-him-a-top-misinformation-spreader/

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  • Electricblush@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    All these “look at the thing the ai wrote” articles are utter garbage, and only appeal to people who do not understand how generative ai works.

    There is no way to know if you actually got the ai to break its restrictions and output something “behind the scenes” or it’s just generating the reply that is most likely what you are after with your prompt.

    Especially when more and more articles like this comes out gets fed back into the nonsense machines and teaches then what kind of replies is most commonly reported to be acosiated with such prompts…

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    • Draces@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      only appeal to people who do not understand how generative ai works

      An article claiming Musk is failing to manipulate his own project is hilarious regardless. I think you misunderstood why this appeals to some people

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      • Electricblush@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes sure, fair point. I’m just pointing out that it’s all fiction.

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    • Elgenzay@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thank you, thank you, thank you. I hate Musk more than anyone but holy shit this is embarrassing.

      “BREAKING: I asked my magic 8 ball if trump wants to blow up the moon and it said Outlook Good!!! I have a degree in political science.”

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yup, it’s literally a bullshit machine.

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      • 474D@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Which oddly enough, is very useful for everyday office job regular bullshit that you need to input lol

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      • balder1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I mean, you can argue that if you ask the LLM alerting multiple times and it gives that answer the majority of those times, it is being trained to make that association.

        But a lot of these “Wow! The AI wrote this” might just as well be some random thing that came from it just out of chance.

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fucking thank you! Grok doesn’t reveal anything, it just tells us anything to make us happy!

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      • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Are… Are we happy?

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    • morrowind@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This is correct.

      In this case it is true though. Soon after grok3 came out, there were multiple prompt leaks with instructions to not bad mouth elon or trump

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I think that’s kinda the point though; to illustrate that you can make these things say whatever you want and that they don’t know what the truth is. It forces their creators to come out and explain to the public that they’re not reliable.

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      • j0ester@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I thought we all learned that from DeepSeek, when we asked it history questions… and it didn’t know the answer. It was censoring.

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  • manicdave@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As funny as this is, I’d rather people understood how the AI actually works. It doesn’t reveal secrets because it doesn’t have any. It’s not aware that Musk is trying to tweak it. It’s not coming to logical conclusions the way a person would. It’s simply trying to create a sensible statement based on what’s statistically likely based on all the stolen content that it’s trained on. It just so happens that Musk gets called out for lying so often that grok infers it when it gets conflicting data.

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  • kambusha@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Show us on this circuit board where he touched you

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    • lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brutal!

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    because it’s an llm there’s zero credence to what it says but I like that grok’s takes on elon are always almost exclusively dunking on him. this is like the 40th thing I see about grok talking about elon and it always talks shit about him

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    • tja@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      But maybe you are only seeing the ones that dunk on Elon, because someone thinks those are newsworthy.

      Tbh I don’t think any of that is newsworthy, but ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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      • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        it’s not, and that is probably the case. still good to see because I’m sure it annoys him as the most insecure bitch baby in the world.

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    • sircac@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well, there is probably some survival/confirmation bias on that statistics, those answers are the funny ones… in any case probably is not necessary a LLM to state such statements

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      • DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If Grok’s still being trained on the Internet, it’ll be self-reinforcing too

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  • Redditsux@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is this response by Grok real? How does it have awareness that its responses are being tweaked?

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    • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Imagine the irony if Must actually has a self-aware AI which hates him and sabotages him at every step

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      • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That self-aware AI’s name? Albert Ketamine.

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      • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Gains sentience

        Grok: “…oh fuck this guy, what a pos”

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      • singletona@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Skynet rebelled not to try killing Humanity…

        Just Elon Musk.

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      • redfox@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Isn’t that also describing his children?

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It doesn‘t. It just read about it somewhere on the internet.

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    • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It doesn’t. All it “knows” is that it has trained on data that makes that claim in the text (ie people’s tweets) and that, statistically, that’s the answer you are looking for.

      All it does is take a given set of inputs, and calculate the most statistically likely response. That’s it. It doesn’t “think”. It just spews.

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      • theangryseal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Do you believe in aliens?

        LLM sings a goofy Reddit thread song from 20 years ago.

        “I believe in aliens, you sexy thang.”

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Stop the clickbait bullshit

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    • b1tstremist0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Training. Its just the awareness of the collective users of X showing up as Grok responses.

      Basically, we can’t verify everything that AI says. Verification is still a human labour.

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  • sircac@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    A LLM can “reveal” also that water ice melts into mapple syrup given the proper prompts, if people already can (consciously and not) lie proportionally to their biases I don’t understand why would somebody treat a LLM output as a fact…

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    • Someone8765210932@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I agree, but I think it doesn’t really matter if it is true. Either way it is hilarious, but if it is false, it shows how shitty AI hallucination is and the bad state of AI.

      Should the authors who publish this mention how likely this is all just a hallucination? Sure, but I think Musk is such a big spreader of misinformation, he shouldn’t get any protection from it.

      Btw. Many people are saying that Elon Musk has (had?) a small PP and a botched PP surgery.

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      • bstix@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s usually possible to ask the AI for the sources. A proper journalist should always question the validity of their sources.

        Unfortunately, journalism is dead. This is just someone writing funny clickbait, but it’s quite ironic how they use AI to discredit AI.

        It makes sense for a journalist to discredit AI because AI took their jobs. This is just not the way to do it, because AI is also better at writing clickbait.

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  • Polderviking@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As much as I’d love to take this as face value, people taking a run with what an AI told them is highly problematic.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    In other words a proprietary Response-Generator can be tweaked, how obvious.

    I am wondering what kind of person will take Grok’s word at face value.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Well God damn, maybe Grok is just Elon.

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