The type that looks up to Clarance Thomas.
Fucking leeches
Submitted 3 months ago by Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 months ago
Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 months ago
And if you do really well, you might even be able to get Clarence Thomas to look up to you!
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I don’t understand. What exactly is the complaint here? That they’re over charging or charging at all?
Or is this just bandwagon hate on a common and ancient business practice?
Because there is nothing immoral or unethical about having multiple rental property.
And don’t give me this shit about how they’re evil for over charging. The middle class holds all the power all we’re lacking is organization and education.
commander@lemmings.world 3 months ago
Because there is nothing immoral or unethical about having multiple rental property.
Wrong. Nobody should have extra houses to “rent out” while hardworking citizens can’t afford a single house of their own.
The reason why we don’t have enough is because they have too much.
Stop being a useful idiot. It’s falling out of fashion.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
All of you are missing the point. The middle class holds all the power.
It’s out fault the world is the way it is. We let corporations dictate how much things should cost instead of not paying them what they want.
Cars are expensive because people go to the dealer and say “I’ll take what you got for whatever you want me to pay” instead of “I’ll give you 10k for that f150 take it or leave it.”
Instead people are going out of there way to secure a fucking 100k Tesla with whatever funding they got.
Same with rent. We made the market like this because those snazzy new mixed use developments are so chic. Let me give my left testical to bid on one of those condos as long as I get to tell people I live at the Avalon/halcyon/bridgeford or whatever.
We need to dictate how much we’re going to pay for shit not the other way around. Blaming people that take advantage of the system we allow to exist is the same as barking at the moon.
comfy@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
The complaint is that they’re a leech on society, and proud of it.
It doesn’t matter if a practice is ancient and common. So is organized crime. Being old and normalized doesn’t imply it has value.
There is absolutely huge moral and ethical, and pragmatic, issues with hoarding essential resources, such as housing. Homelessness is a growing problem, and these people are gladly treating it as a money-making scheme. Society would be better if they had productive jobs instead. As a collective, landlords are responsible for systematic preventable homelessness and death. Most moral frameworks consider that very bad!
The middle class? As far as I’m concerned, the two important classes are the worker class and the owner class, and the leeches can’t survive without the host. If there are people tricked into thinking they’re a middle class above us, they’d better figure out that they’re a thousand times closer to us than to them, hopefully before our collective desperation turns to violence.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Because there is nothing immoral or unethical about having multiple rental property.
You’re charging someone for you doing nothing so they can have a basic need to survive. It’s very immoral
If you’re gonna try to defend an immoral act with
Or is this just bandwagon hate on a common and ancient business practice?
Then Ill assume you’re pro-slavery and move on
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Charging for housing isn’t immoral just because it’s a necessity. By that logic, grocery stores are immoral for charging for food, and doctors are immoral for charging for healthcare. Property ownership and rental markets exist because providing and maintaining housing costs money. If your argument is that the system should be reformed, fine, let’s talk solutions. But calling all landlords inherently immoral is just lazy thinking.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You’re charging someone for you doing nothing
I see you have never managed a rental before. Go talk to someone who manages a rental, ask them specifically what they do. What happens when the tenant leaves? What happens when the tenant doesn’t pay? What happens when things break? What happens when there is a squatter? What happens when there is a bogus complaint to the local government?
The answer to those questions is most certainly not ‘nothing’.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
The appropriate criticism here is about corrupt markets resulting from restricted/scarce housing supply. Fair markets that encourage abundant housing supply, are ones that would lead to “perfect competition” and fair ROI on capital. The oligarchist/capital supremacy model of US/west corrupts markets against abundance, because extortionist profits fund politicians to protect extortionist profits.
UBI, not democracy, is the important freedom that can address structural corruption, but still the option to rent still needs to pay for the capital/expense investment in allowing you to rent.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
corrupt markets resulting from restricted/scarce housing supply
Housing has a hard limit as there is only so much ground available in desirable locations. Building houses also needs resources and labor and takes a while.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
We can go pretty high, but 3-5 stories has easier construction, and doesn’t need expensive elevator system. 4th and 5th floor without an elevator advantages young people, but reduced rent still can be profitable vs stopping at 3 stories.
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
TenantSlaveaeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
All i had to do was just buy 4 houses? Damn. I’m rich!
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What’s weird to me is that the first one pays for their vacations and the second one pays their mortgage. If I had rental properties I would do it the other way around.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If nobody is allowed to own more than one property, should everyone be forced buy? Where would renters get apartments from?
Xhead@lemmings.world 3 months ago
A functioning government?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Ah, so the government is your landlord now?
It’s good, because Americans have so much trust in their government right now.
Maalus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No rentals, houses will be gifted to everyone and magically conjured out of thin air.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
Your sarcastic inability to see a different path does not mean a different path doesn’t exist.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Look into public housing in Finland.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I am from Finland and public housing is shit.
ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Government-provided housing, social housing where your payments get you partial collective ownership, cheaper mortgages now that landlords aren’t artificially inflating the rates?
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
The government. They used to provide housing in the UK and then they stopped and stopped building new houses and now they’re unattainable for most.
starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Yeah some people desire to be exploited! Send those kids back into the mines! /S
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Can you give me a serious answer without the /s
If I inherit my grandmas apartment, can I put it up for rent since it’s in small apartment in a college town and there will be takers.
Or should I sell it so I don’t become a “landlord”, which is bad?
Should all students just buy an apartment for the 4-5 years they spend in the city or will the city be the landlord for them somehow collectively? Or is it less bad if the college is the landlord by offering student housing?
Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 months ago
ITT: people who want free housing without understanding the costs of owning a house
jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Imagine that, people in the wealthiest nations in the world, wanting to meet their basic needs for survival with dignity. Ha ha ha, when will they ever learn, right my friend?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Or maybe just quality, affordable, public housing?
Look at what Finland has done for an example.
commander@lemmings.world 3 months ago
Owning a house isn’t that expensive.
I own one. It’s so much cheaper than renting it’s not even funny. I could pay someone to do all the work I don’t want to and still come out so far ahead it’s not even funny.
Renting is a scam for useful idiots.
Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Well I hope nothing ever goes wrong with your house’s roof or siding or HVAC or foundation or plumbing or electrical or…
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Owning a house isn’t that expensive. It’s so much cheaper than renting
The good thing is, people who don’t want to rent can buy. I highly encourage people to do exactly that.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Nobody likes a cheater.
mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Housing prices are pretty high in cities. But you can buy your own piece of land in a more rural setting and build a small cottage yourself, maybe a 2 bdrm, 1 bath home. I believe this is possible for less than $100k at the right location. Start with a used cheap RV or if you have to.
Cheems@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’re fucking high if you think you can build even a small house for less than 100k
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Trump deported all of the construction workers
mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I don’t support those deportations. But do why not do it yourself?
hedhoncho@lemm.ee 3 months ago
As a former property manager my motto was rent until you can own. I hate the 4 percent rent increase in la. Even if there’s more income it’s impossible for young people to save and I hate it.
commander@lemmings.world 3 months ago
Even if there’s more income it’s impossible for young people to save and I hate it.
That’s the point. It’s why I always laugh whenever someone says “they’re a business and they need to make money!”
It’s like, that money is just going to the landlords of their employees more often than not. We can hopefully see how that rhetoric is a roundabout way of defending the profits of people taking advantage of us.
The working class has really sold itself out.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
In this specific example the 4 rental homes likely don’t even pay for themselves. Add up the mortgage, insurance, maintenance averages, and property taxes then divide by units and subtract the average rent (include vacancies in the average): that’s how much you make per tenant.
At most I could see a profitable location with 4 units covering groceries and vehicles, but not vacations. You would need more like 8 or 9 units for that.
This meme seems to specifically target mom & pop level operations. If the Tenants are really such victims they should just get together buy the property out.
thisfro@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
If the Tenants are really such victims they should just get together buy the property out.
If they could do that, they could probably buy a better place and wouldn’t have to live there.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
And if they can’t do that then there are no alternatives to either renting or homelessness.
commander@lemmings.world 3 months ago
🥱
This person has no idea what he’s talking about and we should all ignore him accordingly.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Question - is it unethical to be a landlord IF your only rental properties are garages in an area with plentiful and free street parking, and the land couldn’t be used for housing if the garages were torn down?
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Renting out commercial properties are not a problem. Nobody needs a warehouse or an office or a hard stand to live. Most businesses either buy their own property or they need the flexibility to outgrow small offices, or to rent a hard stand for a few months or years.
Renting out residential property iis parasite behaviour.
thisfro@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
the land couldn’t be used for housing
why not?
But generally yes, garages are less of a problem. But there is no ethical renting (under capitalism).
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
It’s a 12ft by 20ft garage on a tiny subdivision of a house’s plot of land. Not zoned for housing and not large enough to even fit a mobile home. Just cut off of someone’s backyard.
earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Every job involves having other people pay for your living costs.
ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 months ago
The key difference is that these goods and services wouldn’t exist if you were not paid to do the job.
If landlords didn’t exist, then all housing would either be government-distributed, socially-owned, or obtained through mortgages.
If the workers building those houses didn’t exist, then the house wouldn’t either.
The only difference between a system for housing with a landlord, and one without a landlord, is that the landlord is an intermediary that shaves some money off the top any time money is used to pay for housing, even when the building is already fully paid off, or they aren’t there, and your money just covers the cost of construction and maintenance directly.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
My job doesn’t involve making a profit off of arguably the most important thing a human needs for survival… Just saying.
earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
So you have a problem with farmers?
keiznklei@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Henry George’s ideas will catch on again someday, hopefully.
alxmg@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables track #4
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
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uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Rent-seeking is an evergreen relevant Wikipedia article
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Gotta love when it applies to it’s literal namesake