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RedNote may wall off “TikTok refugees” to prevent US influence on Chinese users

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.zip⁩

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/rednote-may-wall-off-tiktok-refugees-to-prevent-us-influence-on-chinese-users/

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  • Joncash2@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Those will stay rumors. Thinking the CCP will wall off Americans shows a complete lack of understanding China. Since as the article noted, if you don’t follow the rules you’ll be banned, there’s no way the government will try to wall off anyone. Hell, China didn’t even want to ban Google. They asked Google to put in the rules that rednote has. Google refused, the firewall blocks Google until they abide by the rules. If Google ever just follows the rules like Microsoft, they’re more than welcome to come back. If there’s any segregation it will be because the server’s are overwhelmed.

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Explain the two different Tiktoks then. Both were playing by the CCPs rules.

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      • Joncash2@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s the funny part. As they’re discovering with RedNote, Tik Tok wasn’t censored by China. It actually was it’s own entity and did it’s own thing. That was a company decision because they thought it would make more money, and they were right.

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  • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Such a popcorn moment, honestly. I wonder where they’ll go to once Red Note blocks US Americans. They might be able to go back to tick tock if the US backpedals, but if not… is pixelfed or whatever fediverse alternative exists really ready to absorb 700M accounts?

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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    • meldrik@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Isn’t it more like Loops.video than Pixelfed?

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Honestly I expect VPN usage to go up

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ironic.

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  • Allonzee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    After interacting with them, it’s pretty clear we’re the trailer park.

    But we don’t exactly prioritize education here. Fuck taxes amirite?

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, there are definitely parts of Chinese history Americans know more about.

      Also, what “we”? The Americans using short form media aren’t exactly the brightest examples in the first place.

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      • banshee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not sure. While it’s not for me, I know some rather bright individuals that enjoy the format.

        I mostly hate that it’s such an advertising industry.

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      • brendansimms@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What makes you say that? From my recent experiences with short form media I’d say there are plenty of bright people involved. There’s tons of actual good STEM/Maker/DIY/Educational/History content and the medium lends itself well to quick community building

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Idk I’m kinda clueless on the warring dynasties period

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      • Aria@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There are Americans in this very thread who think “the CCP” is real.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        well yeah, china has like 1000x more history than america does, i don’t think anyone can know all of documented chinese history

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    • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The irony being that TikTok is specifically designed to dumb down Americans. 🤣

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  • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That would be a shame. I’m really enjoying the app, sharing pictures of food and recipes with people half a globe away is really cool. And there’s a lot of interest in fishing in China, it’s cool to see their techniques, what they do the same, what they do differently.

    And everyone is just so nice! They’ve built a really positive community and culture on RedNote and it’s unique to be able to see that kind of thing work, at least compared to American social media.

    I get why they don’t want US influence and what-not and I could see how a bunch of Americans treating it like Tiktok would be problematic for maintaining the vibe they’ve cultivated, but it’s a really refreshing change of pace from other social media.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The problem with China is really the government. Democracy is a concept that the CCP really doesn’t like.

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      • leftytighty@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Am I the only one seeing the irony here? Is paying lip service to democracy enough? Legal gerrymandering, electoral college, voter suppression…

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      • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        To be fair, though: The US government isn’t really all that keen on democracy, either.

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      • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Me when my government bans a historically popular app: those Chinese ain’t democratic like us!

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    • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That sounds nice!

      They actually prioritize socializing over just putting out random shit for views & engagement?

      I’d love to talk to folks with different cultures and share stuff we find neat!

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      • TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That seems to be the vibe. I’m mostly looking at the food content and one thing I really like is when someone posts a video or photo of a dish they’ve made, people reply with pictures of their own versions of the same thing and heap compliments on each other.

        You, like, absolutely need to use a translator. There’s no in app translation and it’s primarily Chinese people posting and replying in Chinese. But Google Translate works almost perfectly. I have had a number of back and forth conversations and while I’m sure “my” Chinese looks off, I’ve never had a conversation break down because a reply doesn’t make sense.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What is even happening

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  • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good. Why the fuck are you all so addicted to Chinese brain rot?

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  • Fleur_@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I so badly want translators to get to the point where I can seamlessly interact with people who I don’t share a language with. A sm with an in-app text translator would be so cool. Tired of only talking to Brits, Americans, Canadians and Aussies. I want no one to be spared from my bad takes and shit posts!

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    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s actually a really good idea. And LLMs are excellent at machine translation, it’s one of their underutilized killer apps. They’re a little better at going to English than from English or between two non-English languages, just because so much of the corpus is English, but they’re easily enough that it could be automated as a working solution.

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  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You know the other night I got high and thought. “I wander what other countries learn in grade school. How their propaganda is different from ours” and now all this is going on.

    It’s wild how we can connect with people from across the world but our world leaders try their hardest to make sure we don’t.

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They wrote an article from an unsubstantiated rumor on Reddit.

    Meanwhile, China’s People’s Dispatch has praised the exchange, and Rednote has added a translation feature.

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