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Submitted 3 months ago by btaf45@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Jackcooper@lemmy.world 3 months ago
mercano@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.
A_A@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The hitchhiker’s guide to the Galaxy, Chapter 8.
(…)
”Space,” it says, ”is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindboggingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space. Listen . . . ” and so on.dalekcaan@lemm.ee 3 months ago
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Space is small. You just won’t believe how itsy, bitsy, mind-bogglingly tiny it is. I mean, you may think it’s long way to the fridges, but that’s just peanuts to space
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Space is small.
The diameter of the entire observable universe is not even a full ronnameter.
profdc9@lemmy.world 3 months ago
AI is statistically generated word salad.
ameancow@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yah I’m so happy every major internet and tech company is deciding to deliberately power every system we use with random word salad generators, there’s no chance will cause any problems.
pyre@lemmy.world 3 months ago
it’s like having Sarah Palin for dinner!
floral_toxicity@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s a big fucking problem if true. Albeit a short lived problem.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Like every tool, it has its uses…but they are not those people want. LLMs are great for things where mistakes don’t detract from the result (or even add to it) like brainstorming, art, music, disinformation…all that good stuff.
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s what I think too. AI is mainly useful for things that don’t have right or wrong answers.
Although this incorrect answers is obvious, what about all the times where an incorrect answer from AI is not obvious?
contrefeu@akko.contref.eu 3 months ago
@Gsus4 @btaf45 That's true for AI that has been trained for the general public to provide an answer for any provided question meaning they are forced to respond to a prompt even though they are wrong and maybe even know they are wrong. They just don't know the answer and can't say that because it's commercially bad.
I do believe that for scientific research AI models are much more precise because they have been trained with the right datasets and are tasked with answering specific questions.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah that’s why it would be very nice if they would stop integrating it into fucking search engines.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 months ago
They wanna fucking integrate it in everything, dumbfucks. This is why meritocracy is dead, the people with the means to determine where we go as a society are “number go up” people.
jj4211@lemmy.world 3 months ago
brainstorming
Sure thing, but have to remember to include “no bad ideas” in the prompt for best results.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 months ago
that’s the point of brainstorming, all ideas are allowed.
DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Have you gone 13.6 km up there to verify it’s not there?
very_well_lost@lemmy.world 3 months ago
In very next line, it says the distance is 4.37 lightyears away… which is also wrong, lol
For anyone wondering, the actual correct answer is about 4.25 lightyears or about 40 trillion kilometers.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
These are all equally confusing. How many American football fields?
very_well_lost@lemmy.world 3 months ago
In scientific terms? An absolute fuck-ton of football fields.
DLSantini@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Approximately 437,445,319,335,083 of those.
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
One football field is about a hectometer and there are 10 hectometers per kilometer. So 415 trillion.
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Close. The distance to Alpha Centauri is 41.5 petameters (trillion kilometers) and the distance to Proxima Centauri is 40.2 petameters.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Relying on LLM for any facts without verifying is playing with fire.
lunarul@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So really no excuse when the vogons come
toynbee@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There’s no excuse anyway. The plans were very prominently displayed.
Ixoid@lemm.ee 3 months ago
On display? I finally found them in the bottom of a locked filling cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the leopard”.
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Forgive Bing. It’s American and doesn’t know the metric system.
BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I’m burrrrning!
Squibbles@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
It’s measuring the distance to your nearest copy of Sid Myers alpha centari
expatriado@lemmy.world 3 months ago
wormholes confirmed
BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Stargate is a documentary.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 3 months ago
13.6 kilometers ought to be enough for anybody.
yuki2501@lemmy.world 3 months ago
When techbros said “you can type a question and the AI will answer”, they seem to have forgotten that we expect the answers to be true and accurate.
And they seem to have forgotten that to do that, they actually need a database of facts.
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
And they seem to have forgotten that to do that, they actually need a database of facts.
This is the main reason why AI cannot be trusted to answer science questions. They absolutely need to a database of facts.
Intheflsun@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Good golly, someone make some chocolate chip cookies, we’re going to have to go and welcome them to the neighborhood. Damn rude no one said anything sooner.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Like, are we sure? Has someone actually checked?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 months ago
Yeah, some nerds won’t shut up about their fake numbers
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 months ago
I have a copy of the Alpha Centauri game about 13.6 meters from me.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Do you have tips for someone used to newer Civ games? I know I played Civ2 as a kid, which should be similar, but I only remember back to 3 and only clearly back to 4. I tried AC and had difficulty just figuring out basic controls.
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I still play Civ 2 more than any other Civ.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
Hey, I have a half tank of gas, I think I will go check it out.
IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s
126 miles to Chicago13.6 kilometers to Alpha Centauri, we’ve got a full tank of gas, half a pack off cigarettes, it’s dark, and we’re wearing sunglasses.RHSJack@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’ll be the non jokey one here and bring us all down with the hard math. 13.6 kilometers converted into American is pretty much, like, way more than a half tank of gas unless you have a Prius. But you do you. Can you get me a slushie on the way back? You know I’m good for it.
_bcron@lemmy.world 3 months ago
AI sure is gonna be weird if we preface any question involving dimensions with some dumb arbitrary scale as reference.
Depending on trim and accessories, the 2025 Chevrolet Silverado weighs anywhere from 1454 to 1533 watermelons
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I use to be able to ask google the distance in kilometers of anything in space and get an accurate answer. So I first asked this same question in google but it only gave the answer in light years for some reason. That’s when I went to bing and got their ridiculous answer.
ianovic69@feddit.uk 3 months ago
It’s a mess. I just used Google Assistant (not even Gemini) to ask the distance in km and got this -
According to the website Space, the distance is 37.8 trillion km.
I know which one I’m going with but finding out assistant is wrong is a big deal. Lots of people will assume like I did that the info is just pulled from relevant websites. Can’t do that now.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The 4th dimension shortcut
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 months ago
41.5 petameters
btaf45@lemmy.world 3 months ago
41.5 petameters.
…wordpress.com/thinking-in-metric-for-astronomy/
Nobody using the metric system says “trillion kilometers”!
Unfortunately way too many people do even though it is not the correct SI unit for the scale, simply because ‘kilometer’ is the metric distance unit used for Earth distances. I have astronomy distances memorized as metric SI distances and I only care about the km distance so I can convert that to the SI distance. e.g. When I see “trillion kilometers” I convert that in my head to “quadrillion meters” which I then convert to “petameters”.
I would rather see the base unit ‘meters’ than km so I can skip a step. My own preference for astronomy distance units is:
metric SI units > meters > kilometers > non metric units
LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Hmm now that I read that article I was thinking about the poor computers who all run on power of 2. What we really should do is switch to base 1024 instead. It makes sense to optimize for the true representation of numbers in these spacecraft.
36.86 pebimeters. Lets make it happen! 🤣
blaine@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
He literally told it to give the answer “in km”. That’s on him, not Bing.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s why it’s been so gosh darn hot.
punkwalrus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That explains why it’s so hot outside.
sparkle@lemm.ee 3 months ago
How have scientists not figured out interstellar travel yet??? It’s really right in front of us!
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
They are bits of fire a few kilometres away. We could reach them if we wanted to. Or we could blot them out.
For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do you suppose it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Ok, lightyears, but i think the number is right?
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Maybe Bing has access to the Event Horizon’s portal tech. It would explain a lot.
nao@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
It knows the distance from Earth, but that’s not what the question was. It’s 13.6 km from somewhere.
darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Now that’s an explanation for Global Warming that I haven’t heard before!
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
GOP gonna take this and run with it.
thejml@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I thought this was fake or a bad result or something, but totally just duplicated it. Wow.
If you read the block of text…. It doesn’t make sense either.
FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 months ago
I expect if you follow the references you'd find one of them to be one of those "if Earth was a grain of sand" analogies.
People like laughing at AI but usually these silly-sounding answers accurately reflect the information the search returned.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
It’s in the quote that they scaled it.
The point is that the entire alleged value is the ability to parse the reading material and extract the key points, but because it doesn’t resemble intelligence in any way, it isn’t actually capable of meaningfully doing so.
Yes, not being able to distinguish between the real answer and a “banana for scale” analogy is a big problem that shows how fucking useless the technology is.
gaterush@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I just tried and got “about 40,000 billion kilometers”. Also the references are completely different from the ones in the post, so I guess it was a ranking issue
AI is just too unpredictable, hard to know what’s accurate and you end up doing the work yourself anyways
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
the loaded die at the end that chooses one of the llm’s answers happened to land on a good word