Instead of algorithms, noplace leverages AI technology to drive suggestions and curation.
Instead of algorithms, noplace leverages algorithms to drive suggestions and citation
noplace, a mashup of Twitter and Myspace for Gen Z, hits No. 1 on the App Store
Submitted 4 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 months ago
Most bullshit take I have ever seen. You can’t replace a recommendation algorithm with AI, since its basically the same.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Not basically, most (current) recommendation systems are AI/ML based. Any big platform is using AI/ML recommendation algorithms.
Gsus4@programming.dev 4 months ago
You used to have very simple friends-of-friends algos that are not ML, they are just graph connectivity and distance. They work for recommendations like steam games of what people who like this game also liked.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
thanks i hate it here
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 months ago
So disruptive!
Gsus4@programming.dev 4 months ago
It’s potentially worse, because before you may have had an algorithm that a human could fine tune or whistleblow on. Now if it is trained on large datasets, the resulting algorithm is usually a blackbox weight matrix, they probably have no idea what pattern it is optimizing :S
Petter1@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Nearly every social media has used Machine Learning to create personalised since a very long time, it was just not marketed as AI…
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
noplace had already gone viral ahead of its public launch because of its feature that allows users to express themselves by customizing the colors of their profile.
Reads like a book about the future
probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Wow this really is idiocracy
Abnorc@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Wait until these people hear about geocities.
Evotech@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s a full loop
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Or SpaceHey.
morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
IOS only of course. Pack it up, nothing to see here. This is another clubhouse.
ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Do people who don’t have to buy their own hardware yet even use Android?
Flatfire@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Absolutely. Android devices are dirt cheap, and ubiquitous in most of the world. It’s an obvious choice for many based on that alone. There’s also lots of families that aren’t in Apple’s ecosystem.
Vytle@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Something’s weird with this; I have heard absolutely nothing about this. Surely this is botted? Social media platforms don’t take off like this. Regardless of if its legit or not; who is funding this? No social media platform ever makes a profit.
paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Pretty sure they ran a shitload of ads on tiktok using vc money before the app even released.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
launching something on ios only? in this day and age? y’all know places outside the us exist, right?
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Gen z bullies themselves to only use iPhone, or so I’ve heard. Comply or be left out of every group chat
tlou3please@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Not in Europe. Everyone just uses WhatsApp, even with an iPhone.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 months ago
The rich want to enclose themselves in a bubble without average people >;(
Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Gen Z most assuredly doesn’t.
stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 months ago
You don’t need to share everything about you all the time. There is nuance is privacy and intimacy between close friends and family.
Until we realize that, we will continue to learn this lesson over and over until it sinks in.
These are the steps we must climb.
QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
You can have social media and still have a private life? Just don’t share everything on social media.
stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Wasn’t saying you shouldn’t have any
Outlined the current challenges we face, because the majority of people have not learned how to deal with it. Mostly because of difficult life circumstances and several addictive and mainstream implementations
Nima@leminal.space 4 months ago
we? i am fairly sure most people know how to use social media without being consumed by it.
Not everyone that uses social media is making a mistake.
stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Data brokers and people with experience with helping those affected by identity theft and cyberstalking will tell you otherwise.
Last, never said anything like that. You’ve completely misinterpreted and put in assumptions to my claim that there are problems and difficulties that many, if not most, still face regarding specific implementations of social media. That is, not social media purely as a technology or a concept, but as specific use cases, I.e. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok (TikTok may be a stretch for social media in regards to traditional examples, but many still use it as such)
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Gives me friendface vibes.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Gotta love how all the images in this article are straight from the noplace media kit (link to google docs in footer).
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
I presume this is botted but this is another thing that makes me want a more modern federated MySpace.
Chozo@fedia.io 4 months ago
I think that's what Diaspora is trying to be. I've not heard much from that project recently, though, so I have no clue if there's any activity on that platform anymore.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 months ago
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Diaspora is more like Facebook than MySpace. You don’t have a profile page that you get to customize like they’re describing here.
Omniraptor@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Man I remember reading about them in wired back during the bush administration
devilish666@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I hope someday we can have Friendster 2.0
return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Remember Livejournal?
fjordbasa@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Or deadjournal? If livejournal was too mainstream, but you still had to get your emo thoughts on the internet
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 months ago
It may not be super active, but Insanejournal is still a thing.
fisco@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Noplace in my life…👎🏼
noodlejetski@lemm.ee 4 months ago
the App Store description and screenshots have a very heavy fellow kids vibe.
Chozo@fedia.io 4 months ago
From noplace's FAQs:
Emphasis mine. Now their privacy policy:
So, it looks like they're starting off with lies right at the top, like every other tech startup.
AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I work on web software professionally and this is a pretty minimal list that is completely justifiable for maintaining operations. If you can’t answer basic questions like “what are users doing with the app?”, you can’t make intelligent decisions about how to improve it.
There’s a lot of the same stuff here: legal.lemmy.world/privacy-policy/
I don’t know anything about this app or company so I’m not going to defend them, but there aren’t any real red flags here. If this amount of data collection bothers you, you really should stop using the internet in general.
Chozo@fedia.io 4 months ago
Sorry, I kinda got lost in the sauce on my original comment, lol. My issue isn't so much with the data collection, itself. My problem is that their FAQs say things that appear to be outright lies. Not even just embellishing the truth or something, but complete falsehoods.
I don't care so much that they collect a bit of data. But if they're wiling to lie to a potential user about their data collection, I can't help but wonder what else they might be willing to be dishonest about. I already have doubts about their crypto claim in the FAQ based on their founder's history with crypto, so I worry that this might also be something they're not being truthful about.
FelipeFelop@discuss.online 4 months ago
I think you’ve missed the point. It’s not the data they are collecting but the fact they say they don’t collect data.
Knossos@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And just to piggyback on this comment, I’m an Android developer and we this information is critical for determining similarities for bug solving.
You would not believe how often there is a bug caused by a specific model of phone. That connection you can only know if you log that for every crash you get.
ayaya@lemdro.id 4 months ago
Yeah as someone who has worked in web development for over 20 years everything in here is completely standard. Almost every major website in existence collects this kind of analytical data.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’d prefer we not surrender to mass surveillance. If we support alternatives, they remain viable.
www.privacyguides.org/en/
ikidd@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Gen Zs do. not. give. a. fuck.
Chozo@fedia.io 4 months ago
Yeah, I thought about that halfway through looking through their ToS. I wish I was smart enough to figure out how to package this into a message Gen Z can actually understand and care about.
essteeyou@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It sounds to me like the usage data is talking about the fact that every major web browser sends identifying information about the browser, device, etc. when you visit any site.
For an app, they’re likely getting data from Google Play or the App Store for crashes, installs, comments, whether they like it or not.
People don’t often accuse me of being an optimist.
Chozo@fedia.io 4 months ago
Oh for sure, I don't doubt that. The issue that I take is that their FAQ - which I imagine is rarely actually read by users, but is definitely read more often than the ToS - is directly contradicted by their ToS. While they say they only collect one data point in the FAQ, the ToS outlines several other data points they collect. While they say they don't share your collected data with third parties, the ToS states that they may share your collected data with third parties for advertising purposes. The FAQ denies being connected to crypto schemes, despite their founder (Tiffany Zhong) and parent company being heavily involved in crypto.
While these are all standard practices for just about every web platform, it's the lies in the FAQs that should be concerning to users. If they would have just said exactly what they do with your data or what their background is in, or even just not included it in the FAQs at all, I wouldn't have any problem with it. But they're willing to openly lie to their users, and I don't think they should be trusted.
jorp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They’re saying they might ask to collect this additional information. A lot of the information, as others have pointed out, are also common and necessary for some basic operations of a service like this.
This is an overreaction, there are many good reasons not to like this app but misunderstanding their data policy isn’t one
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I was surprised they didn‘t include AI in the FAQ until I learned they‘re openly advertising the usage of AI for the service whatever that means. Common GenZ L to throw themselves at this.