When they do come to it. I hope its the easily swappable like the ones in Nokia 3310. Otherwise its pointless imo.
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FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In two years time Apple will be forced to make the battery user replaceable and that one will most likely benefit everyone; unless Apple wants to release two versions of every iPhone to comply with EU regulations which they won’t.
Fishytricks@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
AFAIK, the EU defines “user replaceable” as literally that; you open a hatch, pull the battery out and stick a new one in.
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 3 weeks ago
Fuck, let’s hope they at least allow screws. Click-in latches are prone to breaking and wearing out
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Meh, most iPhones live in a case, it’ll be fine
Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
How many often are you planning on replacing the battery in your phone that it would wear out?
smokinliver@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I have a Phone with a click-in latch and nothing wore our over the last 5 years
FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They should do, although I can’t really imagine manufacturers incorporating plastic tabs into their sleek glass-metal sandwiches…
Walican132@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Yeah I don’t miss dripping a HTC phone and watching the pieces scatter.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Unfortunately, they do not define it that way.
And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn’t have to be replaceable at all.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can you really guarantee that? I mean, it’s pretty much dependent on individual usage.
EddoWagt@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn’t have to be replaceable at all.
I do not remember reading that, the only exception I remember is for devices that are intended to be used under water, which phones are definitely not
Fishytricks@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sounds really good to me!
Guadin@k.fe.derate.me 3 weeks ago
They'll make the replacement so expensive nobody will do it. And then there will be a new rule mandating it needs to be a reasonable price. Apple will say it's reasomable because it factors in environmental costs, and so the dance continues.
exu@feditown.com 3 weeks ago
Pretty sure the draft allowed “common tools” or specialised tools if they came in box.
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hopefully they keep selling a phone with no replaceable battery. Id rather have the weather proofing than a battery i need to swap out one time after owning the phone for over 4 years.
themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
How many times has your phone needed the weather proofing in the last 4 years? Mine is 0, at least twice. On the flip side, I have needed a new battery 2 times.
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ive needed the IP68 rating a handful of times. I have needed a new battery zero times on my 4 year old phone. If I need the battery replaced, Ill just take it to apple and have them swap it out.
Its still at 70% usability, which still lasts me all day.
themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That’s the thing though, why is apple the only ones authorized to swap out your battery? That service isn’t free, and they’re massively overcharging you for it.
It’s also not impossible to build a phone that is water resistant and has a swappable battery, but that’s besides the point. Personally I’d rather have a swappable battery.
IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not a good argument. This is like saying why do we need airbags because I have never used it. We need to have both the features, with water proofing being more critical.
oldfart@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I’m all about replacable batteries but come on. Two times I was out and came back home soaking wet because of rain. Many more times I used my phone in the kitchen or bathroom while water was splashing with no stress, which I wasn’t brave enough to do with a non-resistant phones.
That being said, I’d rather carry an extra battery or two like I used to than carry a power bank.
themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The soaking rain thing has happened to me with a not particularly water resistant phone and it was fine. The water ratings are more intended for direct splashes and full immersion.
My opinion is that this is a comfort we can do without, especially given the ecology and consumer rights implications (not that a phone with a user replaceable battery is necessarily porous to water, plenty of phones meet both criteria)
gian@lemmy.grys.it 3 weeks ago
The two features are not mutually esclusive. I owned an S5 which was waterproof and had replaceable battery more than 10 years ago. It did not seems too hard to do
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
S5 was not IP68
gian@lemmy.grys.it 3 weeks ago
I know. I was only pointing out that you can have a waterproof phone and a replaceable battery. Obviously you need to do better than the S5 but it is nothing impossible, even wanting to keep the audio jack and the USB ports.
Nurgle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Everyone will benefit, but have to imagine relatively few will buy tools to actually take advantage of it.
datendefekt@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Just like with USB-C, which the EU regulated and now the iPad and IPhone have.
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 3 weeks ago
the stupidest thing is iPad had USB-C since 2018! and yet on iPhones they latched on to lightning for another 6 years before EU forced them to standardize
PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s because they’ve been pushing the iPad as a sort of Mac Lite, but they can’t do that unless you can plug peripherals into it.
JWBananas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They were keeping their promise of 10 years of Lightning ecosystem support. Dropping the old iPod connector was highly controversial.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
They were earning millions from lightning royalities
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
“We promise to keep increasing our profit by overcharging customers for awful cables they can’t get anywhere else”
What a dumb promise
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Phones used to have a round charger socket, a USB socket that could also be used to charge, plus the headphone socket and SD card slot. I’m sure they could have found room for both USB C and Lightning, with all the other things that were removed.
hushable@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
no no no, that was just Apple being brave /s
Tja@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
IPhone 16, with 30% more courage