We’ll be lucky to have any kind of future
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Do you think we’re headed towards a future like the Matrix or more like the Terminator?
Assman@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think it’ll be 90% idiocracy and 10% Capitalist Star Trek
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 months ago
Capitalist Star Trek
Is that a thing? I would like to see that.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ferengie
scytale@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Dune. There will be a butlerian jihad against thinking machines.
dalekcaan@lemm.ee 9 months ago
But at least we get drugs that let us see the future
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I must not fear… good advice for the future.
Neato@ttrpg.network 9 months ago
Welp, there goes autocomplete on my phone.
ivanafterall@kbin.social 9 months ago
I'm still holding out for Weird Science.
damndotcommie@lemmy.basedcount.com 9 months ago
You mean the chick with the big big titties?
FunkyMonk@kbin.social 9 months ago
The Road.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Still hoping for Stargate
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 months ago
Unlike the show, humanity would totally be enslaved by worm heads in like, a day.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Seems nice enough
GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 9 months ago
[deleted]MimicJar@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ah, so Wall-e.
Neato@ttrpg.network 9 months ago
You’re right. It’ll definitely be more like Equilibrium.
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I don’t think so. I haven’t even seen Heat, Logan’s Run, or Pan’s Labyrinth.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 months ago
My crystal ball says Muppet Treasure Island. Sick.
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
No, I’ve seen that one.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
This scenario wasn’t in either movie. This is more like something out of Time Gate.
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Does that one have a happy ending?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I didn’t know. I never finished it. I’m kinda curious now, though.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What’s Time Gate?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
It’s a sci-fi setting where AI is used to “resurrect” famous dead people, and there’s a virtual world where all of these famous people can interact. So, you could have a synthetic Socrates debating a synthetic Mark Twain, for example.
I thought it was ridiculous, but it really looks like that’s the way we’re headed now.
damndotcommie@lemmy.basedcount.com 9 months ago
Idiocracy has my vote.
kromem@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think people need to start realizing that it’s not just the past that’s prologue when the future involves recreating/resurrecting the past.
Yes, this isn’t as good as George Carlin. But it’s a little over a year from the AI generated Seinfeld loop on Twitch that was god awful.
Where is the tech going to be in five years? In ten? In fifty? Long after you and everyone you love are dead?
If you think no one gives a shit about how they use your data right now when you are alive, just how much less of a shit are they going to give when you are long dead and anyone who would litigate on your behalf is too?
It is increasingly becoming clear that our future is going to involve recreating the past based on the data left behind.
So it stands to reason that we may not be the original present, but a future recreation of it.
At the tail end of last year we had articles like The first minds to be controlled by generative AI will live inside video games.
Well, what would that look like? Knowing what else we do of building video games, we might imagine the world would be designed using procedural generation so you could have an entire universe with billions of planets if you wanted. But you’d need to convert from continuous functionally determined geometry to discrete units for the AI to interact with as its decisions would be external to your procgen so you’d need to individually track state changes to interactions. Ideally you’d make that conversion optimized so if permanent information about the interaction was lost it would revert to save on memory.
So when we look at our own universe, where the smallest building blocks behave like they are determined by a continuous function until interacted with by free agents when they switch to behaving like discrete units - but then if we erase the information about the interaction they go back to behaving like continuous - maybe the ‘weirdness’ of that behavior was only weird because we hadn’t yet invented the parallel to which it bears similarity.
Einstein ridiculed a universe in which the moon didn’t exist if no one was looking at it, and yet every single video game ever made that has a moon has one that doesn’t exist if no one is looking at it.
The scale seems insane for a simulation to us, but our ability to simulate is constrained by the size of our universe’s building blocks. The idea of simulating Minecraft at it’s crap fidelity would seem unthinkable to NPCs within Minecraft. Our universe that behaves quantized at low fidelity behaves continuous at macro cosmic scales, and a continuous universe would have significantly greater computing ability than a quantized universe at our atomic scales.
TL;DR
No, it won’t be like The Matrix where human bodies are plugged into a simulation, nor will it be like Terminator where AI is at war with humans. It will eventually be like Westworld season 4 where thanks to the giant amounts of data gathered on humans for marketing and security purposes humanity will be able to be recreated in their respective times and places - simulated like in The Matrix but with nowhere and no body to wake up to.
Eternal dreamers dreaming of being awake.
Most people won’t like this idea, but everyone would be wise to start preparing for it becoming more evident as time marches on.
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I haven’t seen Westworld. I’ll have to watch it.
kromem@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s probably one of the best modern sci-fi works in terms of its futurism. The production clearly had conflicts behind the scenes with HBO which ends up alluded to within it with characters who want to focus on the existential in what they are writing but are forced into writing about violence - but the end product in spite of that is very clever.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The first season especially is fantastic imo.
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Thank you for sharing your point of view! Very interesting.
ExLisper@linux.community 9 months ago
Personally I think it will be like Beggars and Choosers.
gregorum@lemm.ee 9 months ago
hoping for star trek future-- although that means the next 40 years will be pretty terrible.
hersh@literature.cafe 9 months ago
Bell Riots are coming this year. The Second American Civil War starts in 2026, which leads directly into WWIII.
From there, everything is pretty much terrible until warp drive is invented.
gregorum@lemm.ee 9 months ago
it’s creepy how specific (and prophetic) the star trek writers were about our future. other than the Eugenics Wars not happening in the 90s, they’ve been pretty spot-on.
Nutteman@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No eugenics wars in the 90s? The Bosnia-Serbian conflict??
nicetriangle@kbin.social 9 months ago
The Bell Riots story line is by far my fave DS9 arc. There’s a really good Terry Pratchett book with roughly the same concept that is also my favorite of his books. It’s called Night Watch.
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Well, it would be nice to think there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Nollij@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
How many lights do you see?
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 9 months ago
FOUR!
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Three. I hope that isn’t a train.
gregorum@lemm.ee 9 months ago
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