I thought a car had to have that before it went on sale?
Comment on Tesla Cybertruck's stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Gonna be real fun to see the crash test rating.
Without crumple zones, all of the kinetic energy goes into the occupants.
ramble81@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Cornpop@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Believe it or not I’m the USA it’s actually based off of self compliance in the USA. There is no specific government body that has a standardized test that they have to pass to be made legal. The manufacture gets to make that decision themselves, then if there is an issue that the government finds later they can be pulled from the road.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 9 months ago
We all saw how well they worked for the 737 Max…
aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Believe it or not in the USA it’s actually based off of self compliance
Oh, I believe it.
1847953620@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I hope they get pulled from the road. Problem is, he’ll just bribe some government officials
freebee@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
:O
Chreutz@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I know it’s fun to bash Tesla every now and then for their ridiculous things.
But do you really think, after making 4 vehicles with top of the line safety, that they will just say ‘eh, fuck it’ with the cybertruck?
It’s an aluminum casting base construction, just like the Model Y, so why would there be no crumble zones?
PatFussy@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Because they wanted it to be bullet proof.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 months ago
The safety standards are a regulatory requirement. They have to pass the same tests as any other vehicle.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Not in the US. We don’t have many safety regulations on vehicles and crash tests are not mandatory.
AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
How does getting rid of crumple zones facilitate that?
gregorum@lemm.ee 9 months ago
It doesn’t, directly, however, the materials used in the exterior paneling contributes to the lack of safety in the vehicle and crash tests not only because of the materials, but also because of the shape of the materials and how they are joined.
hperrin@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There are crumple zones, they’re just not as big as those in competing trucks. But yeah, the safety comparison is probably negligible, what really makes me think it’s a bad truck is the design of the bed. It’s got slanted walls. That really limits what you can haul and how you can get it into the bed.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Let’s be real. No one is hauling anything in this truck. In my experience the more expensive truckk the less its actually used for anything.
The entire cybertruck fleet hauling completed by 2030 is probably the equivalent to one year of 01 Nissan Frontiers…
Chreutz@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah the practicality of the cybertruck is definitely questionable!
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That actually would be on brand for Musk.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Really think they will just say ‘eh fuck it’
Were talking about Elon here. Yes, I do think so. In addition, don’t give too much credit, the other vehicles would always be inherently safer because they’re electric.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Ah yes, inherent safety can naturally be disregarded in such considerations.
DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 9 months ago
Here you go:
Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s… computer generated. BeamNG maybe?
yeptemp69420@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m pretty sure that’s BeamNG, yeah. That sand looks like a texture from Johnson valley, I’m pretty sure the wall they’re hitting is either a gas station or a garage model that was placed on a road, and the skid marks from the tires look the same as they do in BeamNG.
Felix_Bardner@pawb.social 9 months ago
Looked convincing at first, but it felt too clean- Then at 7 seconds in, you can watch a white panel clip straight through the door and windshield lol
1847953620@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah, without a disclaimer and evidence it’s modeled correctly it’s just straight misinformation at this point.
DoomBot5@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Second crash, the body part above the front wheel goes straight through it.
CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Look at the name of the channel too.
Gargantu8@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Thanks for sharing! How do I know if this is good or bad haha
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Couldn’t trust the truck enough to put a dummy in the seat.
DoomBot5@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Considering it’s rendered, they might as well just toss a human in.
Kiosade@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Wow looks unsafe as fuck!!
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
What makes you think it doesn’t have crumple zones?
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.
It’s 4x as thick as current sheet metal used in other vehicles, and twice as thick as the steel bumpers used in old cars that didn’t have crumple zones.
That combined with the fact that they have stated that all of the strength and rigidity for the truck comes from the exoskeleton, that would preclude being able to crumple.
They have not made safety a priority in anything on this monstrosity. The windows are are all laminated and shatterproof, meaning you can’t break them to escape if there’s a fire or you end up underwater and the body is bulletproof meaning that it can’t be torn open with the jaws of life if you need to be extracted.
It’s a giant metal coffin.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.
Bulletproof steel can still crumple. And it does. The vehicle was crash-tested a long time ago. Just look at the photos.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m not sure you should be talking about others sharing disinformation when the crash tests were only released 8 days ago.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 months ago
What photos?
DoomBot5@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ah, so it’s all from your incorrect assumptions about how materials work.
Cornpop@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Windows will shatter just like any other car window, and a jaws of life would pull apart that tin can no problem.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The side windows are laminated like a windshield. They are explicitly designed not to shatter.
weew@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I don’t know what the hell you’ve been reading, but they’ve never claimed the entire truck is solid stainless steel. Just the exterior panels.
they claimed that the exterior panels would be able to add to the rigidity and strength of the truck. Not that it was 100% rigid or that the exterior made up 100% of the structural strength.
The interior is still basically just a regular aluminum body like all their other cars.
casmael@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Yeah have you seen the footage it’s as stiff as the rod up musks butt hole
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
OTOH it weighs almost 7000lbs (~3100kg) so it’s going to plow through most of everything with its sheer mass.
Thorry84@feddit.nl 9 months ago
You’d be surprised how much a concrete pillar holding up an overpass can actually take. They don’t break like in the movies, they are specifically designed to take big truck impacts and not fail. Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes.
lemann@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Why does that sound delicious 😭
jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It is! In a pressure cooker, you can cook beets in a basket over a layer of potatoes and garlic cloves. The beet drippings turn the potatoes pinkish-red. Super fun for kids.
Spur4383@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Eat the rich?
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
case in point
We have barriers good enough to stop a fully-loaded semi in effectively zero distance.
ikidd@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Go hit a 10"+ tree in a pickup and see how fast you stop. You can wander over and pick the engine up when it flies out the hood. The tree will loose some bark.
CAVOK@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Been there, done that. 0/10. Do not recommend.
nomous@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same, hit a small (maybe 5") tree going about 60mph. Came to a complete stop immediately and put my head through the windshield. We went and peeled the license plate off the tree the next day.
I guess it put a little mark on the tree but it was basically fine, completely destroyed the car though.
CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 9 months ago
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