Comment on Chrome not proceeding with Web Integrity API deemed by many to be DRM

NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Both leaving reddit and leaving google s.e. were two things that I thought would be harder than they were.

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  • TimeSquirrel@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just need to install Linux as your primary OS and your transition to software freedom will be complete.

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    • deus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Doing so on the desktop is easy enough. Getting rid of Android appears to be a much harder challenge, though.

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      • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Android is opensource. You can get phones that support ROMs like LineageOS (would recommend a FairPhone) or /e/ (godawful name, good ROM) for example - you can buy the Murena phone for this.

        Linux phones are about 5 years away from mainstream usability, IMO.

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      • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Fingers crossed that linux gets better support and development on phones

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      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lemmy has a hate boner for Apple but iOS is dope

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      • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I can reccommend graphene os however u need a pixel for that

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I use it for work but at home with gaming and stuff it’s just not sustainable

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      • doeknius_gloek@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Proton keeps getting better and better. I long for the day when I can ditch windows completely and it might not be too far away.

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      • spatialdestiny@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What games do you play that aren’t compatible? I don’t play many of the really mainstream games. I think the last game I played that wasn’t compatible at the time was genshin impact.

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  • spudwart@spudwart.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Leaving google isn’t hard.

    Leaving YouTube specifically, however… Well, it’s been getting easier as content seems to be less and less frequent or quality.

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    • AnotherOne@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I use piped/newpipe etc. and simply support creators i watch via patreon/direct donations/merch. Less money for shitty ad company more money for creatives.

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    • lemming741@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maps is the last one to replace. There are so many ads now that I’ll tolerate a lower quality alternative.

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      • pirat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There’s are some OpenStreetMap-based apps that are worth checking out. Some of them are made for specific purposes, while other are for general navigation. I’ve tried some of them through the time with various success, though I’ve still haven’t found a favorite to stick with for good. But I believe making the switch is definitely possible and probably worth it!

        You can install all the mentioned apps through F-Droid:

        • GraphHopper Maps
        • OsmAnd+
        • Organic Maps (hike/bike)
        • Alpi Maps (hike/bike)
        • SeaMapDroid (nautical)

        Additionally, use Transportr for public transport navigation almost anywhere in the world, and GMaps WV, a restricted WebView wrapper for accessing the web version of Google Maps. Intended for use when OpenStreetMap isn’t enough.)

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      • MisterD@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I use OSMAND

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      • danque@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I can definitely recommend maps.me it’s a great app with default offline maps. It was a great tool when traveling abroad without internet

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    • CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Leaving YouTube specifically,

      grayjay.app

      I’ve been using it. It’s actually pretty great.

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is true, I still use youtube and I don’t see it changing soon since there are no viable alternatives.

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      • AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Closest I’d say would be a service like Odysee. Can’t really say whether their practices are better than yt or not, but I can at least confirm I’ve found a few channels I don’t wanna sub to on yt also have accounts on Odysee. As to whether or not they made those accounts/channels is a different story.

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      • WillardHerman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Personally, I can’t imagine what is on YouTub that’s worth watching. I don’t know, I haven’t used it in ages.

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    • Resonosity@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nebula is a good alternative

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  • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I still worry that leaving Reddit is going to make it tilt to the right. I spent a decade posting there in the hopes that it would nudge people towards sanity.

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    • livus@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it probably already is somewhat, but there comes a point where trying to change the system from within becomes futile and complicit.

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    • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The right use it and all other social media sites for coordinated disinformation. No matter how much you try to combat it you’re going up against people/ideas with deep pockets and a lot of resources meaning your voice is just a drop in the bucket.

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      • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sure, but there are a lot more of us, and we make more sense.

        It’s important to present people with the contrasting view when they’re presented with disinformation. It’s natural to believe the first thing you read if it’s just a narrative with no dissent.

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  • MisterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The hard part is the cost difference (I haven’t looked terribly deeply yet) Family Proton (3TB) is 395 AUD (when you sign up for 2 years)

    2 TB, 125 AUD per year for google drive, and it’s per year.

    Pro-rata that’s literally twice as expensive, and you have to sign up for 2 years to get that rate, which makes moving my stuff a hard pill to swallow :(

    Is there a plug and play service that’s as good as proton without the hefty premium?

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• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ahem, will edit this in a moment…

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• xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I replaced gmail with protonmail and everything else with nextcloud. Couldn’t go back.

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  • Crisis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hosting your own nextcloud I’m guessing?

    If so how did you install it?

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    • dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Their docker stack is pretty simple to setup

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    • xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nope, I don’t have a server and I also want to secure my files in a different location so I paid for hetzner.

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  • kzhe@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    After a lot of privacy switching I finally did try NextCloud, but I couldn’t get port forwarding to work on my Internet and gave up… For now

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    • xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You are probably behind a nat. I contacted my isp and they disabled it, since it works perfectly!

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      • kzhe@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What do you mean nat? For me there is an app with an option (apparently no other way) and it didn’t worj

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  • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Based

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  • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Question: can email from gmail be imported into proton mail?

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    • USSEthernet@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, they even have a walk through on how to do it.

      proton.me/support/switch-from-gmail-to-proton

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• Swarfega@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Honestly. Off the back of this debacle I switched to Firefox and duckduckgo. Previously I used to use the shit out of incognito because I hated that when I searched for something once that I then get that thing popping up everywhere else. Since the switch I no longer get the feeling of being stalked.

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  • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    NoScript helps a lot, too. I suppose other extensions also. It’s horrifying how many sites embed Google and Facebook tracking, including ones that really shouldn’t like medical sites and banks.

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    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      DuckDuckGo has an extension that blocks trackers.

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• squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My concern is saving my email and photos before my account is randomly banned one day with no customer service and no recourse. God only knows what data they already harvested from when I used to back up my photos with their service.

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  • Open_Mike@artemis.camp ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just grab a copy using Google Takeout, then after that use Syncrify, FolderSync, Resilio Sync or something else to automatically copy your phone media to your computer.

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    • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Definitely the first step is to get more SSDs. I was traveling a lot and barely used a desktop or even a laptop for 6-7 years. I’ll check out those sync systems, thanks.

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• onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  ecosia.org as a search engine :) Uses bing in the background (and newly also google), but your data isn’t sold (AFAIK).

  Or duckduckgo.com

  If you want opensource there’s YaCy

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  • kzhe@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m on Kagi but I did the one time payment and am unsure about whether I’ll extend. Results are good but 10 dollars a month isn’t insignificant (cheap plan is orders of magnitude less than what I need in searches)

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    • ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I tried kagi and wasn’t impressed. For all but one or two queries the results were exactly the same as ddg. Not to mention they had that stupid metric stating 78%+ unique kagi results for every search, even though that was blatantly untrue. They seem pretty dishonest as a company.

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  • railsdev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use SearXNG. Google’s search results aren’t even good anymore so there’s really no excuse not to switch at this point. For awhile I couldn’t break the habit but recently Google has gotten considerably worse.

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  • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I used Ecosia for a long time (almost 5 years) but the search results are pretty bad. Often I had to use another search engine to actually find what I was looking for. DuckDuckGo is pretty good, Brave Search is OK as well but SearXNG is my personal favorite.

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• railsdev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hardcore Mode on IVPN is insane (it blocks Google). Sadly it’ll break a lot of stuff though, but fuck Google.

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  • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I adjusted my entire digital life so I can do everything without ever connecting to Google services. I block them in my self-hosted Pi-Hole, on NextDNS and in my OPNsense Firewall.

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    • railsdev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mainly I’m talking about random captchas that break. Everything else I can live with.

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      • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I refuse to use services that force me to surrender to Google. Why don’t people use hCaptcha, it’s not perfect, but it’s far better than this Google garbage…

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• dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  On the topic of this, what is the best alternative out there? A few years ago I’ve tried a couple options, out of curiosity, but the search quality was super poor for anything that’s not in English, and the accuracy of found content wasn’t always there

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  • fiddlestix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I reckon Kagi is the best start engine out there. It’s paid though. Second I’d have Qwant followed by DDG.

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  • Paradox@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Best? Kagi. Best free? Probably bing

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