Comment on CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 month ago
Why do we tolerate these people?
I know you don’t necessarily mean it this way, but there’s a very interesting (and infuriating) history to why the US reveres the wealthy. The short version is that the ultra wealthy were pissed about the New Deal, so they used fundamentalist Christianity to tie the idea of wealth to holy favor from Yahweh.
We will have to overcome that idea if we hope to gain real class consciousness.
The short version is that the ultra wealthy were pissed about the New Deal, so they used fundamentalist Christianity to tie the idea of wealth to holy favor from Yahweh.
That concept existed WAY before the United State did.
The old idea was kings were rich because they were ordained to be kings by god. Questioning why the king was rich was questioning the word of god and punishable by death.
Sure, but why it exists today in the US is a direct result of the robber barons’ influence in the early 1900s. The core idea isn’t new, but this instance is.
Early colonized America used slave labor by racist christians. Those racist christians said they were supposed to be rich suppose to be rich because god made them that way. That predates the robber barons of the early 1900s.
so they used fundamentalist Christianity to tie the idea of wealth to holy favor from Yahweh
It’s much older. That bullshit goes back to John Calvin (16th century Christo-Taliban idiot), and there are even precedents for it in the Torah, though balanced by other provisions about behaving like a decent human.
Yes, I know. I’m not looking back at the entire timeline of history. I’m looking at the most recent example, because while the idea is not new, it is not an idea that lasts on its own; people wise up over time, which is why the idea gets rehashed by different figures at different points in history.
Makes sense for the overdrive push on the Christianity angle. It’s just obnoxious to someone who’s going pretty damn secular.
Pray tell, how do you stop them?
I don’t want to get banned for answering this.
Ironic
Wait, I got banned on Reddit for suggesting armed resistance to billionaires. It’s why I came here. Does the fediverse also ban people for suggesting we shoot the bastards?
Pretty sure it depends on the server and the community mods.
It depends, it’s more that it’s off topic for a tech sub.
Also calling for murder is generally frowned on.
Mario has a brother, who I’ve heard of recently.
What is it that supplies these oligarchs with power? what feeds their mass surveilance and data aggregation networks? It seems to be only a few moves are needed to place them on the same grid as us.
And behind what you’re suggesting is an even deeper root cause: money.
nice try, uncle sam.
Yeah. Let’s show them how good we are with our hands.
People with the message and reach to call for mass general strikes and national scale marches on DC still think they can stop fascism with elections. Maybe I’m just too cynical in that regard to see the true situation but it seems after continued release of evidences of impeachable and heinous crimes Congress and the DoJ are firmly on the side of the fascist, pedophile political cult.
This is what we call “cooked”
But theres still one super secret recipe that can save this dish
Because we’re stupid.
The system has evolved and is designed to make people obey the ruling class.
And systems have been overthrown in the past when they become intolerable.
Whatcha gonna do about them?
It’s not like I invite any of them over to smoke a joint. They exist and I can’t do much about it
These dudes to crack and ket not weed. You’re offerinf the wrong poison.
I mean… what do you actually suggest? We take a vote on Lemmy about who to execute?
No vote is necessary, we have multiple complete lists and even data aggregators showing their relations to each other.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Because most Americans with slack jaws hunch over their smartphone gawking at tiktok videos of people they hope to one day be but never will.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 month ago
Really feeling the victim blaming here when they made the devices into virtual heroine
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There’s probably a good analogy out there about addiction but I saw something flashy on my smartphone and got distracted.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 month ago
You and me baby ain’t nothin’ but mammals so we’re easy to distract and get fucken enamored
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Okay, so that helps no one.
Anyone else have any input?
maccentric@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
*heroin
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
No, no, they made devices into strong female protagonists!
/s
enterpries@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Bro, come on. People are glued to their phones the same reason you’re glued to your computer.
The outside world fucking sucks unless you’re a scammer or rich enough to be scammed without noticing it.
It’s free to be on our devices, which is why most people are doing it. Everything else costs money that people straight up do not have.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
“mOsT aMeRiCaNs…”
Blah, blah, blah. If you can tell me how to un-fuck this nation in a way that will actually wake people up, I’m all ears. But the way I see it, these things were insidiously marketed to the whole country slowly and incrementally, like frog in a slowly warming pot of water. Those of us who jumped out of the pot are watching in horror as the rest get boiled alive.
The problem is, frogs don’t have opposable thumbs and we can’t turn the gas off - so the pot keeps boiling.
foodandart@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The best you and I can do is to look out for each other, our friends and family and help anyone else that manages to escape the pot as quickly as possible so they don’t get back in…
My thoughts are that people are animals and they’ll follow where the majority go, so keep helping others escape the pot and eventually, more will notice there is an exit option and jump as well.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
At the moment, I see this as the only real answer. Until there’s proper organization and resistance, everything is lip service.
Mobilization is easy - the protests and marches get people together in solidarity. But organization takes effort: it takes talking to people, getting numbers/contact info, making plans and deciding what’s next…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 month ago
People are already Woke Up. They’re still powerless.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Agreed. We’re partially awake.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Yeah right. Almost half the people I talk to are not happy but are burning their heads in the sand and waiting/hoping for this to blow over. It can’t happen here and all that.
willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Powerless?
Or is it learned helplessness?
danh2os@piefed.social 1 month ago
This doesn’t happen in a bubble though. We need those people too. We need each other.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
We’re still in the pot, dude. It’s a double-boiler, we only jumped out of the inner chamber where even the metal on the bottom doesn’t go above boiling temperature…
wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
In other words, a slave wants to have their own slaves, instead of being free.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
That’s an ugly feature of human nature, as well as some victims thinking the solution to their victimization is to have someone they can victimize too.
termaxima@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Look, I hate the Americans with a seething passion as well, but they’re getting fucked over even more than we are right now.
Evil doesn’t suddenly become okay when you dislike the victims…